New era Panthers

You are not alone on that score. If this is plan A I think plan B will soon follow as soon as the next set of averages are released.

Peter karger rode for Rye House in 2016 twelve meetings to achieve an average 2.18 maybe he's the Dane 4 pointer, i hope not though, think we can do much better than that with British riders even though they are few and far between at this level.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

No they were not permitted Ged was under suspension and Trevor Swales retired at the end of 2017 season. No information was received by the promotion from the BSPA AGM for well over week and any news of decisions made, the only way of finding out was through social media. So Peterborough were behind those that attended meeting on the outcome of the meeting, but that should not be used as an excuse why they are behind with team building.

If they change the rule you have the same chance as all other teams to sign them and re declare but with the attitude coming from you towards these riders one can understand why you've got little chance of signing either of them anyway. The season is still a couple of months away as yet so what's the hurry to complete teams as there is no time limit .

Which means we will be operating with at least 3 potential reserves. With the first four already signed making Grondal the fifth signing was a shocking decision leaving very little room for getting the last two signings right , what ever the plan was it's baffled a few people and I can't see why others should worry about who Panthers last two signings are , I cant see how any of those signed so far have improvement in them . It looks like another season of middle to bottom of league team to me and with or without Nicholls I see it making very little difference.

How would you know the rules are going to change , I hope they do but nothing is certain and if they don't change then one or two teams as well as Panthers will have a massive headache trying to put together a competitive team ., so for that reason alone i'm hoping they do change but I have an open mind just what the BSPA intend to do

He won't get punished though. There was only one person Chapman wanted to punish as he had already stated before a date was set for the BSPA /SCB hearing that he would come down heavily on Rathbone as he was absolutely furious with what had happened . Then to chair the actual meeting with such a biased attitude was totally out of order.

Highly unlikely , maybe would have to lose 2 of the 5 already signed to accommodate both of them so very slim chance of that happening.

Panthers can't fit both but could fit either with 13.76 left to fill 2 positions.

He was rightly punished for it at the end of the day no thanks to the BSPA who thought if they punished him hard enough with a massive out of all proportion fine they could get rid of him altogether and then stick there own puppet in to promote at the showground . luckily Ged got some good legal advice and was able to put his case to the ACU who overturned the £ 28,000 fine to a realistic and sensible £3,000. Yes he did wrong and i'm not proud of him for doing it .Yet the vice chairman has been vindicated by BSPA pals in the best interests of British speedway for giving misleading advice.

Tom Perry looks to be about the best bet at 3.61. When he rode for Panthers in 2016 He raised his average from a 3 pointer to over 5 before getting injured and having to come from injury in the NO2 position and seemed to loose confidence . Maybe worth another gamble at reserve.

Thanks for clearing that one Neil.

I heard that the BSPA have reaccessed Grondal's average from 4.39 to 5.20 .Perhaps somebody at the BSPA could explain the logic bearing in mind how the Lakeside team averages have been doctored to make them below 42.50

The rules the BSPA MAFIA make up to suit there own agenda.

Thanks for that.

Anybody aware of when the next BSPA meeting has been arranged for proposed rule change.

Andersen and Tom Perry would be my guess.

I wanted to purchase a pair of season tickets late January early February in 2016 and was told personally by Lisa that the deadline had passed and they would not proceed with further applications this even though I stated that I understood the deal for cut price early season purchase was over and accepted that I would pay the extra .

It doesn't really matter if either of those two , because the damage has been done with the 5 already signed. Scotty or Hans would be carrying a lot of weight IMO

Yes true, what a move that was, Chris Harris was brilliant helping Panthers win the ko cup and the fours , that wouldn't have happened with Hansen who when he was able to put in a performance was only a shadow of the rider who guested for Panthers in 2016. What did loyalty to your riders win you last season.

I think they are waiting for a rule change and can't name either rider before this hopefully happens , that will be plan A if rule change does not happen then I would say they are have riders waiting in the wings for plan B.

He's heard about Jack.

He's only available to come to Panthers if he wants to ride for them and as he has is heart set on Sheffield he's most likely to go there, regardless of where Laura wants him to go the rider will get the final say. Or as they say you can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead.

Or we could go forTino Lahti 8.41 and Jan Graversen 5.27 =42.42 with Lambert and Grondal at reserve.