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I rather thought quite a few Poles felt the same way. They might even join in. But I guess it'll all be forgotten if the Poles win. Although Holta might be in the firing line if they don't.

I still think ZKZ's song should be corrupted for the SWC to: "Rune Holta's not really a Pole, not really a Pole, not really a Pole." I'm sure Rico could translate and provide lessons to everyone from the forum going. Could have quite a chant going.

If Team GB doesn't win at Swindon, that's it. They're not going to progress past a Wroclaw race-off which will include any 2 from Poland, Australia and Sweden.

I haven't the first idea what was written on the page, but it looked like it could be a booking facility. The GP name? Rather obvious I think: The Not Polish GP live from Leszno.

Yes. I'm just wondering which GP would be staged there? Because, as every self-respecting ZKZ fan knows, Leszno is not a Polish club. The following might be a link selling tickets, but I'm not sure: http://kupbilet.pl/imprezy.php?impr=sw0001 It's from the Bydgoszcz website.

Well, I'm not getting into the whole "greatest ever" thing again. But I'd agree with your point about TR having raised the bar significantly this year.

In fairness, as Tabby3 points out, this is Neil Street giving his opinion. And everyone's entitled to an opinion. I don't think Crump would put it down to the media. He was interviewed many times before and during tonight's meeting at Wolverhampton and he scored a maximum. So, what does Neil Street put Leigh Adams' eclipse down to? If Crump has disappointed in the GPs so far this season, so has Leigh Adams. I think it's simply that neither has the machinery to challenge TR consistently. Neither looks on the pace, especially in the GPs.

Thanks for that Champion. I could've sworn I copied the table directly from the Bydgoszcz website, but it looks like I made an error.

And to close off the weekend's Ekstra Liga action, here are the final top 10 in the averages for the regular season (last week's position and average in brackets): 1..(1)..R Sullivan..Czestochowa..9.97..(10.13) 2..(5)..T Gollob..Tarnow..9.72..(9.55) 3..(2)..N Pedersen..Zielona Gora..9.65..(9.65) 4..(3)..L Adams..Leszno..9.51..(9.62) 5..(4)..J Crump..Torun..9.45..(9.57) 6..(6)..R Holta..Czestochowa..9.37..(9.18) 7..(7)..P Protasiewicz..Bydgoszcz..9.19..(9.16) 8..(8)..T Rickardsson..Tarnow..8.98..(9.00) 9..(9)..A Jonsson..Bydgoszcz..8.95..(8.76) 10..(-)..R Sawina..Bydgoszcz..8.73..(-.--) So, TG's maximum against Torun sees him leap from 5th to 2nd, while Nicki P slipped to 3rd without even turning a wheel in anger at the weekend. With maximums for TG and born-again Pole Rune Holta at the weekend, it's looking pretty good for Poland with the SWC coming up shortly. Can aTomek Gollob lead the Poles to world cup glory on the 60th anniversary of the day Enola Gay's "Little Boy" delivered his fateful "kiss" and ushered in the atomic age?

He was born in 1977 and he rides for Gdansk in the Ekstra Liga.

And here are the Ekstra Liga standings at the end of the regular season (team..meetings..points..small points): 1..Bydgoszcz..14..23..+75 2..Torun..14..22..+18 3..Tarnow..14..22..+118 4..Czestochowa..14..21..+49 5..Leszno..14..19..+32 6..Wroclaw..14..15..-30 7..Gdansk..14..11..-59 8..Zielona Gora..14..4..-203 Taken from: http://www.btzpolonia.pl And the remainder of the Ekstra Liga season should look something like this: So, the remainder of the season looks like this: 07-08-05 Wroclaw versus Tarnow Leszno versus Czestochowa 14-08-05 Tarnow versus Wroclaw Czestochowa versus Leszno 21-08-05 Czestochowa/Leszno versus Bydgoszcz [semi-final] Tarnow/Wroclaw versus Torun [semi-final] Zielona Gora versus Gdansk [relegation race-off] 04-09-05 Bydgoszcz versus Czestochowa/Leszno [semi-final] Torun versus Tarnow/Wroclaw [semi-final] Gdansk versus Zielona Gora [relegation race-off] 11-09-05 Final (1st leg) 25-09-05 Final (2nd leg) However, as Rico has suggested, it is possible the the Wroclaw-Tarnow fixture scheduled for 7 August, 2005, will have to be re-arranged to accommodate the SWC.

It's good to see dear old Jacek Gollob in the final as well. I see that Chrzanowski and Miskowiak join Hampel in missing out. Good luck to your Unia Tarnow team on Sunday Leliwa.

It's probably just as well. Young Nicholls has been a busy fellow this last week. I think he's earned a bit of a rest. Thanks for the information Champion and good luck to Tarnow on Sunday.

This weekend’s final meeting sees ZKZ Kitten’s, tommy’s and Dog’s favourites Zielona Gora seeking redemption and consolation at home against a powerful Czestochowa side. It’s been a nightmare season for Zielona Gora, but can they give comfort and hope to their faithful fans and the Falubaz Hools with a victory? They’d certainly approach the shoot-out at the Ekstra Liga’s last chance saloon against Gdansk with more hope if they pull this one off. ------------------------------ Zielona Gora..34 9..L Richardson..2,2,3,2,2,1' = 12+1 10..Z Suchecki..1',1',2,1,1 = 6+2 11..M Staszewski..2,0,1' = 3+1 12..P Swist..0,1 = 1 13..R Okoniewski..2,2,2,0,0,2 = 8 14..M Nowaczyk..0,1',0,0 = 1+1 15..A Marcinkowski..2,0,1',0 = 3+1 Czestochowa..56 1..R Sullivan..3,2',1,3,0 = 9+1 2..S Ulamek..0,3,3,2',3 = 11+1 3..G Walasek..3,1,2,1 = 7 4..S Drabik..1,3,1,3,2' = 10+1 5..R Holta..3,3,3,3,3 = 15 6..M Ciura..3,0,0,0 = 3 7..P Dadela..1.0 = 1 Ht 1..Ciura, Marcinkowski, Dadela, Nowaczyk [Ex/T] 2-4 (2-4) Ht 2..Sullivan, Richardson, Suchecki, Ulamek 3-3 (5-7) Ht 3..Walasek, Staszewski, Drabik, Swist 2-4 (7-11) Ht 4..Holta, Okoniewski, Nowaczyk, Ciura 3-3 (10-14) Ht 5..Ulamek, Sullivan, Swist, Staszewski 1-5 (11-19) Ht 6..Drabik, Okoniewski, Walasek, Nowaczyk 2-4 (13-23) Ht 7..Holta, Richardson, Suchecki, Ciura 3-3 (16-26) Ht 8..Ulamek, Okoniewski, Sullivan, Marcinkowski 2-4 (18-30) Ht 9..Richardson, Walasek, Drabik, Okoniewski [E/F] 3-3 (21-33) Ht 10..Holta, Richardson, Staszewski, Dadela 3-3 (24-36) Ht 11..Drabik, Richardson, Walasek, Nowaczyk 2-4 (26-40) Ht 12..Sullivan, Suchecki, Marcinkowski, Ciura 3-3 (29-43) Ht 13..Holta, Ulamek, Suchecki, Okoniewski 1-5 (30-48) Ht 14..Ulamek, Drabik, Suchecki, Marcinkowski 1-5 (31-53) Ht 15..Holta, Okoniewski, Richardson, Sullivan [Ex/T] 3-3 (34-56) ------------------------------ Notes: 1..Ht 1 and not a good start for Zielona Gora as Nowaczyk gets up to mischief at the tapes and is excluded. 2..Ht 8 and Marcinkowski replaces Nowaczyk for Zielona Gora. 3..Ht 9 and Okoniewski replaces Suchecki in a tactical move by Zielona Gora. 4..Ht 10 and Richardson replaces Swist in a tactical move by Zielona Gora, while Dadela replaces Ciura for Czestochowa. 5..Ht 12 and more changes by Zielona Gora as Marcinkowski replaces Swist and Suchecki replaces Staszewski. 6..Ht 15 and some relief for Zielona Gora as Sullivan gets up to mischief at the tapes and is excluded. 7..A maximum for Rune Holta as Zielona Gora are trounced at home. ------------------------------ Bonus points calculated per British Elite League. All details from: http://www.sportowefakty.pl

This weekend’s third meeting sees a fairly meaningless mid-table clash between Leigh Adams’ Leszno and Jaroslaw Hampel’s Wroclaw. Both teams are comfortably in the play-offs and this should be a reasonably easy win for Leszno. ------------------------------ Leszno..48 9..L Adams..3,0,3,2,2 = 10 10..A Skornicki..1,2,0,3,2 = 8 11..D Balinski..3,1,2,3,1' = 10+1 12..L Jankowski..1,3,0,0,1' = 5+1 13..J Rempala..3,0,0,0 = 3 14..N Kosciuch..0 = 0 15..K Kasprzak..3,2',3,3,1' = 12+2 Wroclaw..42 1..T Gapinski..2,0,2,1',3 = 8+1 2..H Andersen..0,2,1',2 = 5+1 3..K Slabon..2,2,2,0,0 = 6 4..P Swiderski..0,1',1',0 = 2+2 5..J Hampel..1,3,3,3,1',3 = 14+1 6..R Jamrozy..2,0,1,1,2 = 6 7..M Pacholak..1' = 1+1 Ht 1..Kasprzak, Jamrozy, Pacholak, Kosciuch [Fall] 3-3 (3-3 Ht 2..Adams, Gapinski, Skornicki, Andersen [E/F] 4-2 (7-5) Ht 3..Balinski, Slabon, Jankowski, Swiderski 4-2 (11-7) Ht 4..J Rempala, Kasprzak, Hampel, Jamrozy 5-1 (16-8) Ht 5..Jankowski, Andersen, Balinski, Gapinski 4-2 (20-10) Ht 6..Kasprzak, Slabon, Swiderski, J Rempala 3-3 (23-13) Ht 7..Hampel, Skornicki, Jamrozy, Adams [E/F] 2-4 (25-17) Ht 8..Kasprzak, Gapinski, Andersen, J Rempala 3-3 (28-20) Ht 9..Adams, Slabon, Swiderski, Skornicki 3-3 (31-23) Ht 10..Hampel, Balinski, Jamrozy, Jankowski [E/F] 2-4 (33-27) Ht 11..Hampel, Adams, Kasprzak, Slabon 3-3 (36-30) Ht 12..Balinski, Jamrozy, Gapinski, Jankowski [E/F] 3-3 (39-33) Ht 13..Skornicki, Andersen, Hampel, J Rempala 3-3 (42-36) Ht 14..Gapinski, Skornicki, Jankowski, Swiderski 3-3 (45-39) Ht 15..Hampel, Adams, Balinski, Slabon 3-3 (48-42) ------------------------------ Notes: 1..Ht 4 and Kasprzak replaces Kosciuch for Leszno. 2..Ht 6 and Kasprzak replaces Kosciuch for Leszno. 3..Ht 8 and Kasprzak replaces Kosciuch for Leszno. 4..Ht 11 and Kasprzak replaces Kosciuch for Leszno, while for Wroclaw Hampel replaces Swiderski in a tactical move. 5..Ht 14 and Swiderski gets up to mischief at the tapes and is excluded for Wroclaw. ------------------------------ Bonus points calculated per British Elite League. All details from: http://www.sportowefakty.pl

This weekend’s second meeting sees third place Bydgoszcz hosting lowly Gdansk. With only 2 points to make up for the bonus point, Bydgoszcz look handy for a place in the top 2, because you can’t see anything other than a strong Bydgoszcz win here. And should the result of the Tarnow-Torun meeting go their way, Andreas Jonsson and his boys could finish top. ------------------------------ Bydgoszcz..59 9..A Jonsson..2,3,3,3,2' = 13+1 10..K Krzyzaniak..1',1,2',2' = 6+3 11..R Sawina..2',0,3,2',2' = 9+3 12..M Robacki..3,3,0,3 = 9 13..P Protasiewicz..3,0,3,3,3 = 12 14..K Buczkowski..0,0,2,0 = 2 15..K Klecha..3,2',3 = 8+1 Gdansk..30 1..R Kosciecha..3 = 3 2..G Klopot..0,2,1,1,1 = 5 3..T Chrzanowski..0,3,1,2,0 = 6 4..T Bajerski..1,0,1',0 = 2+1 5..K Jablonski..1,1',2,2,0 = 6+1 6..S Dabrowski..1',2,0,0,0 = 3+1 7..M Jablonski..2,2,0,1',1,1 = 7+1 Ht 1..Klecha, M Jablonski, Dabrowski, Buczkowski [Fall] 3-3 (3-3) Ht 2..Kosciecha, Jonsson, Krzyzaniak, Klopot 3-3 (6-6) Ht 3..Robacki, Sawina, K Jablonski, Chrzanowski 5-1 (11-7) Ht 4..Protasiewicz, M Jablonski, K Jablonski, Buczkowski 3-3 (14-10) Ht 5..Robacki, Klopot, Sawina [Ex], Dabrowski [Ex] 3-2 (17-12) Ht 6..Chrzanowski, Buczkowski, Bajerski, Protasiewicz 2-4 (19-16) Ht 7..Jonsson, K Jablonski, Krzyzaniak, M Jablonski 4-2 (23-18) Ht 8..Protasiewicz, Klecha, Klopot, Dabrowski 5-1 (28-19) Ht 9..Jonsson, Krzyzaniak, Chrzanowski, Bajerski 5-1 (33-20) Ht 10..Sawina, K Jablonski, M Jablonski, Robacki [Ex] 3-3 (36-23) Ht 11..Jonsson, Chrzanowski, Bajerski, Krzyzaniak 3-3 (39-26) Ht 12..Robacki, Sawina, M Jablonski, Dabrowski 5-1 (44-27) Ht 13..Protasiewicz, Krzyzaniak, Klopot, K Jablonski 5-1 (49-28) Ht 14..Klecha, Sawina, Klopot, Bajerski [Ex] 5-1 (54-29) Ht 15..Protasiewicz, Jonsson, M Jablonski, Chrzanowski 5-1 (59-30) ------------------------------ Notes: 1..Ht 3 and K Jablonski replaces Bajerski for Gdansk. 2..Ht 4 and M Jablonski replaces Drabik for Gdansk. 3..Ht 5 and Dabrowski replaces Kosciecha for Gdansk. 4..Ht 5 and both Bydgoszcz's Sawina and Gdansk's Dabrowski get up to mischief and are excluded. 5..Ht 5 and M Jablonski replaces Dabrowski for Gdansk. 6..Ht 8 and Klecha replaces Buczkowski for Bydgoszcz, while Dabrowski replaces Kosciecha for Gdansk. 7..Ht 10 and M Jablonski replaces Dabrowski for Gdansk. 8..Ht 10 and Robacki gets up to mischief and is excluded. 9..Ht 12 and it's all change for Gdansk as M Jablonski replaces Dabrowski and Dabrowski replaces Kosciecha. 10..Ht 14 and it's Bajerski's turn to find himself in trouble with the referee and excluded. 11..It's a huge win for Bydgoszcz and it should see them finish the regular season atop the Ekstra Liga. ------------------------------ Bonus points calculated per British Elite League. All details from: http://www.sportowefakty.pl

This weekend’s first meeting sees the top two going head to head, as TR’s Tarnow take on the champ’s Torun. But will TR be there? He returned to action in Sweden on Tuesday, but maybe Tarnow will prefer to stick with Scott Nicholls? Tarnow trail by 10 points from the earlier meeting between the sides and will be looking to put 51 points on the board to assure them top spot in the final standings. It should be interesting. ------------------------------ Tarnow..49 9..T Rickardsson..3,3,2,3,0 = 11 10..S Burza..0 = 0 11..J Gollob..2,1,2,3,3 = 11 12..G Rempala..1',0,0,0 = 1 13..T Gollob..3,3,3,2',3 = 14+1 14..M Rempala..2,1,1,0,2' = 6+1 15..J Kolodziej..1',1,1',3,0 = 6+2 Torun..41 1..W Jagus..1,2',2,1',2 = 8+2 2..M Puszakowski..2,3,1',0 = 6+1 3..J Crump..3,2,3,0,1',1' = 10+1 4..A Smith..0,0,0,1 = 1 5..K Zabik..0,0,1,1 = 2 6..A Miedzinski..3,2,2,3,2,2 = 14 7..M Jagus..0 = 0 Ht 1..Miedzinski, M Rempala, Kolodziej, M Jagus 3-3 (3-3) Ht 2..Rickardson, Puszakowski, W Jagus, Burza [E/F] 3-3 (6-6) Ht 3..Crump, J Gollob, G Rempala, Smith 3-3 (9-9) Ht 4..T Gollob, Miedzinski, M Rempala, Zabik 4-2 (13-11) Ht 5..Puszakowski, W Jagus, J Gollob, G Rempala 1-5 (14-16) Ht 6..T Gollob, Crump, M Rempala, Smith 4-2 (18-18) Ht 7..Rickardson, Miedzinski, Kolodziej, Zabik 4-2 (22-20) Ht 8..T Gollob, W Jagus, Puszakowski, M Rempala 3-3 (25-23) Ht 9..Crump, Rickardsson, Kolodziej, Smith 3-3 (28-26) Ht 10..Miedzinski, J Gollob, Zabik, G Rempala 2-4 (30-30) Ht 11..Rickardsson, M Rempala, Smith, Crump 5-1 (35-31) Ht 12..J Gollob, Miedzinski, W Jagus, G Rempala 3-3 (38-34) Ht 13..Kolodziej, T Gollob, Zabik, Puszakowski [Ex] 5-1 (43-35) Ht 14..J Gollob, Miedzinski, Crump, Kolodziej 3-3 (46-38) Ht 15..T Gollob, W Jagus, Crump, Rickardsson 3-3 (49-41) ------------------------------ Notes: 1..World champion elect Tony Rickardsson returns to the Tarnow line-up, while Zabik returns from injury for Torun. 2..What a lot of brothers there are in this meeting and Polish speedway - too many, if you ask me. 3..Ht 7 and Kolodziej replaces Burza for Tarnow. 4..Ht 9 and Kolodziej replaces Burza for Tarnow. 5..Ht 13 and guess what? Kolodziej replaces Burza for Tarnow. 6..Ht 13 and Puzsakowski is excluded for Torun. 7..Ht 14 and Crump appears in a tactical move by Torun. 8..Ht 15 and T Gollob gets his maximum, but Rickardsson's last place means the bonus point goes to Torun. ------------------------------ Bonus points calculated per British Elite League. All details from: http://www.sportowefakty.pl

I think Street's making excuses to be honest. The media may be an inconvenience for Crump, but the truth is that he's off the pace. I'd wager that TR is giving as many interviews and so forth as Crump. And to blame Nicholls' exit on Sky is also too facile. Nicholls made a mess of the semi-final and that's the end of it.

And to close off the weekend's Ekstra Liga action, here are the current top 10 in the averages (last week's position and average in brackets): 1..(1)..R Sullivan..Czestochowa..10.13..(10.37) 2..(5)..N Pedersen..Zielona Gora..9.65..(9.42) 3..(3)..L Adams..Leszno..9.62..(9.63) 4..(2)..J Crump..Torun..9.57..(9.73) 5..(4)..T Gollob..Tarnow..9.55..(9.51) 6..(7)..R Holta..Czestochowa..9.18..(9.08) 7..(6)..P Protasiewicz..Bydgoszcz..9.16..(9.31) 8..(8)..T Rickardsson..Tarnow..9.00..(9.00) 9..(-)..A Jonsson..Bydgoszcz..8.76..(-.--) 10..(9)..G Walasek..Czestochowa..8.72..(8.86) So, Nicki P's tour de force for Zielona Gora sees him leap from No 5 to No 2 in the averages, while Jonsson's super showing for Bydgoszcz sees him re-enter the top 10.

Some excellent photographs from the Wroclaw-Tarnow meeting, including Scott Nicholls, can be found at: http://www.sportowefakty.pl/index.php?dysc...5&news_id=73562

I agree that Nicki P is compromising his chances of winning the crown again with his antics. He does need to have a long think about it. But the fact remains that the FIM and other governing bodies need to have disciplinary procedures in place, that includes suspension from future GPs.

I'd say in 5-6 years Stead will be back in the Premier League. He's already 23-24 and has made the Elite League move far too late. I can't see him improving significantly in future seasons.

I think "little brother" will have learned his lesson. I'm not sure how much "KK" will have been grateful to him, as Team Kasprzak were also fined around £1,400 by Unia Leszno for the incident as well.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the FIM to act, it could seriously damage your life expectancy. But the Poles don't seem to have any problems with Nicki P. He's as good as gold over there. Maybe he's seen the way the Poles discipline riders and has drawn his own conclusions. Robert Kasprzak suspended for 6 months for attacking Rune Holta after an incident in the Leszno-Czestochowa clash a couple of weeks ago.

I suppose that'll mean I'll be without my lovely assistant again. I also wish Zielona Gora luck in the Ekstra Liga's shoot-out at Last Chance saloon. But you've got to say Gdansk are beginning to look the part in the Ekstra Liga.