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Agreed, but would Jason have come last in Heat 15 ?, one thing is for sure it seems to have been a cracking meeting even without him.

Well done to all the guys, for a much needed win, hard luck to Bv but you got a point for your efforts.

Looks like "Porky" is ready for Potato head round 2, hopefully Jason,s grandad wont get so wound up tonight, for those of you who dont know "Porky" is the guy on centre green mike, worth the admission price alone, when he is on form.

Jeez 21st dont wind him up he is hard enough to beat already, but i must admit,i was expecting more from him this year, but it seems he is not getting much track time recently.

Yes this is literally in football terms a 6 pointer, for me these two teams are fighting for the last play off spot, should belle vue win, then The Heathens chances of the play offs will be very difficult, as we have 4 home matches coming up, and amongst them are Stoke, so this is one of four MUST win meetings for the Heathens, good luck to all the guys,and hopefully we will get the result we need.

Thanks for that MM.

Cradleysadler, many thanks for Nigels offer, however i am unable to accept due to the fact i am working, and am 170 ish miles away,but i would love to have that chat at a future date, Oh if anyone out there has a 9 to 5 vacancy i am coming back up to the midlands at the end of the month. Yes 79, i am passionate about My Team, maybe i dont choose the right words at times, but hopefully the gist of what i am trying to say comes across most of the time. Spoilt by success! i come from an era where if the Heathens finished bottom but one it was classed as a good season .

Jamie Courtney has signed as a replacement for Royno, from what i have read about Jamie he is a Gater, not meant in a offensive way, but we do need someone who can gate, as i said elsewhere we cannot rely on young guys to consistently come from behind in races.

Hope Brendon is not badly hurt, well done Newport.

Briefly replying to Cradleysadler, i will just say my attendance at Heathens meetings compares favourably with the attendance of our Chairman. Maybe my iterpretation of what i said about a genuine No1 was seen as being aimed at Royno, they were never aimed at Royno who when fully fit is the best rider in the NL, however he is/was not on paper our No1.

Well done Stoke, another emphatic home win, and for The Heathens bad luck guys, but at least we won a race or two, sorry i cant say to much more, after all i am unable to get to as many meetings as i would like due to my geographical location, and the financial restraints the cost of Petrol/Diesel puts on my pocket.

Okay Simon we were beaten by a better team. I dont like saying it, but its true. I read on updates it was embarrasing to watch, that from a Scunthorpe supporter Yes Simon I will move on, everything is fine at Dudley. No-one at Dudley expected to win the League this season, and everyone is happy enough just to see The Heathens back on Track.

Well done to Scunny, and well done for OUR "Danny Boy" Stoneman. I posted some weeks ago, whats gone wrong at "Dudley" some people thought i was off my rocker for posting that,and in some places i got lambasted for saying it, well call it sixth sense or whatever, but we got Ommered at Stoke, Ommered at BV, and now Ommered at Scunny, it not only a matter of getting beat, but in all those matches we basically lay down and died, not something i like to see or read about, I say again there is something NOT right this season, what it is i dont know, but it needs to be put right for next season, NOW is the time to start the planning for 2012, bcuz our season is as good as over, and all i will say is we NEED a proper No1 for 2012, make of that what you will, but our No1 on paper is not these days a No1, Adam did not start the season as our No1, and has again been beset by injuries. Can a Team win a League without having more than 2 guys who reguarly make the gate ? I think not, but its not me who signs the riders, nor makes up the team, but again when it was allegedly said that "The Heathens" could have Tracked a stronger seven, but chose not to do so, that can only be described as shooting oneself in the foot. Thats only a brief summary of what i see or hear from the outside, some supporters may NOT like what i say, but i can only say it as i see it, and i take NO great pleasure in saying it now.

Hmmm, being a Heathens fan, means i hope we win this meeting, but can we or will we are to different outcomes, of course we can win it, but in all honesty I dont think we will win it, i expect Stefan Nielsen to have a big say in the outcome of the League points. With Cameron Heeps signing for Mildy, Stoke looking like Table toppers, Belle Vue having good depth, Scunfield being my Tip to win the League play offs, and The Heathens fighting to hang in there for a play off place, this is an important meeting for both teams, good luck to all the riders, i would love to be there, but the weather looks a bit to dodgey for a drive up from Poole.

Right, I would like to join in this discussion,It will be a hard ask for the Heathens to win anything else this season, 21st choice of Stoke,and my pick of Scunfield are obvious favourites, I will say here and now, Dudley have won all that they will win this season with the Team that they currently have, yes we have a very competitive team, but are short of Scunny & Stoke. There are two lines of thought here, YES the NL is a development League, but secondly there is the supporters to consider, who wants to pay hard earned money to see a Team out on Track which is NOT the strongest available ?? the Team should always be the strongest available at all times, and to suggest otherwise is bunkum, and shows a lack of respect to supporters, I dont want to travel away to see MY Team get a Ommering such as at Stoke or BV, and we havent been to Scunthorpe yet, when i know that i could be seeing someone else im MY Teams colours which would see US win or do better, That really is bad PR if any club makes a statement which infers we could have a stronger Team, but choose not to do so. Back to who i would have left out ?? out of Ash, Armo, Kyle or Royno, if i thought it would win us the League i would have left armo out, and also retained Danny Stoneman, If i thought we couldnt win the League, then i would do as Dudley have done.

Here we go again, Its now the 3rd week into July, and we have some teams who have only ridden 6 league meetings, Newport 3 home meetings, Stoke 3 home meetings, Dudley 4 home meetings, i predict here and now some teams wont complete their League fixtures,bcuz for some teams less meetings they run, then less money they will lose. Speedway in general has now become stop start, stop start, not good bcuz once fans find something else to do,its difficult to get them back.

Dont know how many were there last night, but against Dudley 2 weeks ago <rained off> i would say then the crowd was a couple of hundred, maybe 250 at most.

After reading about the furore about the Track at BV, after reading about concerns about the Track at Newport, after seeing for myself protests about the Track at IOW, Now all these concerns were led allegedly by Jon armo Armstrong, who is the current Heathens Captain. I would like to ask what is Will Ps <Team manager> take on this matter ?? Is Will being overidden by armo ??. I ask this question, as a long standing Heathens fan, as to me it seems all is not right although i ask the question from a distance and not from the point of view of being in the know so to speak, its just an impression i seem to be getting.

Glad to hear that they are all okay, and only their pride is hurt.

Darryl Ritchings, maybe it wasnt in The Heathens pre season plans to have Darryl at No2, but i have been highly impressed with the potential this young guy has shown in this his FIRST full season in the NL, he has shown Speed when he makes the gate, ability to overtake both inside and outside when he has missed the gate, and seems to have the right temperament, if he can afford to be on the right equipment then this young lad can go far in the sport, if he can get a few sponsors to back him, then there investment will be well rewarded .

Hmmmm, interesting subject this, which leads me to broaden it out a little, yes our attendances are averaging well over 1000., but i disagree about having enough dates for PL racing, surely every Tuesday is available, and this is enough. What i believe is, The Heathens are arguably currently the most financially succesful Club in British speedway, this is due to the regular gates of over 1000 at every meeting, and meeting costs for rental of allegedly £1500 per meeting, now admission is a tenner per head, so all other costs of Track staff, Insurances, riders pay, etc,etc have to come out of the remainder, i would suggest that The Heathens are a nice little earner for the backers of The Heathens. Were the Heathens to ride in the PL rider costs etc,etc would be vastly greater than what they are now, and this IMO is the real reason behind why we wont go into the PL.

Well done to both teams tonight, Vog you may be right with your last comment, but and its a big but, WE cant gate, and thats fine against not so good riders,but against better riders, WE cant get away with it, any ways good luck to Stoke in the final, but looking at Muddyhalls Strengthening up with Cameron Heaps and Mark Baseby added to the Team,they look a formidable outfit now.

Thats probably true of the conditions last night, but t,other question is, would they have lost had conditions been more ridable/raceable ??, so probably a draw was a fair result, and a way out for the Ref.

Interesting fact came out of this meeting, for Newport only 2 riders won races, 6 wins between them, whereas for the Heathens 6 different riders won races, debatable point was, should this meeting have started ?, credit to ALL the riders, thankfully no one was seriously injured.

Hmmm, i will add my comments,Kyle won his last race at Newport, perhaps he injured himself when loading his bikes maybe, or it could be that dreaded 24 hour flue thingy, maybe The 2 Peeeees will take umbrage with me now for suggesting any such thing.