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As far as I'm aware there is no such rule in speedway, but I'd be happy to be told otherwise. Gollob could've finished his own World Championship hopes in that move, but it does appear that he doesn't like the Russian for some reason - doubt if it is political history but do remember a couple of incidents last season between the two of them. I do hope it was not deliberate as that would tarnish the title if Gollob is to win it at last and I really did think he had rid himself of these mental aberrations. I am TG's biggest fan when it comes to riding a speedway bike, but this does have me shaking my head again. Well done to Rune - 4th in the Championship is quite an achievement and a strange looking top 8 after this GP, but that is not a bad thing. A couple of seasons ago people were telling me that Nicki would rule the world for a number of years with his attitude and back up team. Where has it all gone?

Absolute rubbish from you and your mate 'Sudden'. As it transpired the poor decision to exclude Gollob from his first heat made no difference as when the track became 'danish' TG showed his true class and, along with the rest of the Polish team, were too good and won. Well done Poland. As for the idiots who keep going on about Holta riding for Poland - get a life please and drop the subject. There are enough examples in other sports - athletics, Mo Farrah born in Somalia - all the South Africans in the England cricket team - Greg Rusedski - Zola Budd - Lennox Lewis - Owen Hargreaves - Briggs & Mauger riding for Great Britain (?!), etc. etc. There have been many examples of speedway riders riding under different licences.

Where was Woffinden born?

Another Masterclass from TG on a track that by all experts' opinion shouldn't suit him. Heat 14 was just magnificent from the best motorcycle rider in the world. AJ should know by now that he can't just bail out and expect to get back in a race. How many times does he do this? Cracking language for the TV too AJ - you should learn your responsibilities buddy as a lot of children watch the Sky coverage. A Second SGP lost by Hampel from a bad choice of Final gate position. Well done Zorro - you have proved many people wrong. I hope that the Championship stays this open until the end.

Brilliant as always DW. Thanks very much. Your contribution to the enjoyment of the SGP has been invaluable when watching the SGP on TV.

Just back from Ullevi. Well done to everyone for getting the meeting on and finished. All the riders should take great credit. Brilliant to see KB winning an SGP at last. Tomasz was very fair to him when he'd got back under him and going round 3 & 4, no doubt others would have shown him the fence. Good to see TG and Greg back amongst it again. Holder is a fine addition and Zorro looks quick and up to GP standard - two last blue gates finished his chances off for a Final. Tai looks slightly out of his depth, but you have to start somewhere. Championship shaping up nicely after 2 GPs. Lets hope it continues. Incredible race down the back straight and into turn 3 in the Final. Amazing effort by Hans to squeeze past Bomber, but it just didn't work. Glad both weren't injured. Just watched it on Sky+ and damn it was close to being unbelievable tekkers by Hans. Guess he wished he'd waited until turn 1 now though.

Mark Webber pays tribute to Jason Crump (and Casey Stoner for his Phillip Island motogp win) on BBC TV live. Thanks Mark, what a diamond bloke.

Some say that the SGP format rewards the consistent rather than the best. If there is a difference, I don't know. In my opinion Jason has been both this season anyway and what a superb record of World Championship podium placements. Seems a long time ago that I spoke with Jason and his mum in the pits at the practice for the Australasian Final in 1981 at Liverpool. I'm pleased that one of us made a success of our lives Live long and prosper Jason.

Can somebody explain to me why there has to be a British competitor in the SGP and why it appears most people believe Tai Woffinden should be that person? I don't take much notice of Elite League averages these days but, if there has to be a British rider next season, should it not be the one who has the highest average this season?

I disagree, Iris, but it all about opinions. He didn't touch the tapes, so he wasn't excluded, that is fact. Then again, Rune appeared to me to jump on one of the re-runs more than Nicki did in the first attempted start. Highlights of this SGP haven't reached my planet yet

I would like to see Snyper1010 given a wildcard to next season's SGP, as I'd love to see him competing against his hate figure, Tomasz Gollob, next year. Would make for entertaining viewing

QUOTE (iris123 @ Oct 18 2009, 02:02 PM) What planet are you on? Even if Nicki was excluded i still don't think it was the right decision.And Gollobs behaviour is unexcusable.Terrible attitude from such a seasoned campaigner.Realised all was lost and spat out his dummy........ Well, I'm not sure they were condoning cheating, just pointing out what would have happened if Gollob had - which of course he didn't. Iris, I think you missed the point of my comment, but if you are on a different planet to me, then that probably explains why :-) If Nicki had been excluded for jumping the original start, for riding the rider outside him (twice) rather than the track, then the Gollob incident wouldn't have happened as Nicki would not have been in the 3rd attempt to stage the semi-final. As I said in another post, isn't sport great that it can encourage so many emotions and different view points? And, me being on a different planet, can somebody tell me what happened to the Super GP Heat thingy that they had last year? Did it happen again this year, or did I just miss it whilst circling planet zog?

No, I don't. Having been involved in speedway and other motorbike sports since the mid 1960's, it is my opinion that Tomasz Gollob is one of the most naturally gifted motorbike riders I have seen and would have been World Champion at least once if the SGP series hadn't of been introduced and one off World Finals had continued. But that is the beauty of sport, everyone can have a different opinion and this forum gives - the sensible ones, the chance of discussing their differences without resorting to personal insults to the competitors or contributors. In my opinion, Nicki should not have been in the 3rd re-start, and maybe not even the 2nd one, but he was and as a result Gollob parked his bike on the track and we are all having this discussion. Great, isn't it?

Oh shut up. How does 3 in Poland help Gollob with the pressure he comes under in Poland? You can hardly claim that the track was made up to suit Gollob last night. Of course Gollob never wins SGPs outside Poland does he and always wins in Poland? Runner-Up twice and Third four times in the SGP championship and would definitely have won a Championship under the old one off format. Well done Jason, dominated throughout the season and only threatened by injury.

As said by Ermolenko and Havelock, if Gollob wasn't such a good motorbike rider he would have fallen under Nicki's challenge on the 4th bend and, more than likely Nicki would have been excluded. Tomasz knew he had little or no chance of overhauling Crump tonight and was delighted to finish runner-up in the overall World Championship, so I am surprised that he then had his head messed up in the semi-final gate pick and went for blue rather than red. He is always under intense pressure in Poland, but he should have been more relaxed and enjoying himself by then. I agree that Gollob shouldn't have parked his bike where he did, but I'm sure he feels that you should not have to fall off a bike to obtain an exclusion. He was very contrite and apolgetic afterwards and talk of a season's ban is just plain ridiculous. There is little enough entertainment in the SGP these days without excluding the most naturally gifted motorbike rider in the field. Personally I hope it doesn't come to that. Well done Jason, you surprised me this season. A worthy world champion. Congrats to Tomasz - again proving, maybe, that he is the best not to win a world championship. A great first season from Sayfutdinov, let's hope Chris Holder can do similarly next season. Well done Rune making into the top 8 again, a really nice bloke and I hope he will be back in the SGP next season. But where for British hopes and does anybody merit a wildcard?

Agreed jrs. It was good to hear both Gary Havelock and Hans Andersen make a similar reference to Tomasz as "being the best not to be / should be on this form". Miracles sometimes happen, but as TG said "7pts maybe - 17 no way". I don't know what changes Tomasz has made recently, but his bikes have looked so much faster in the last two SGPs.

Loved the Sky commentary - Lap 2, turn 4 = "Hans Andersen is looking brilliant here & what a fine victory this would be for the Dane - Yes its nice to see Hans out front..... Here comes Gollob - Wow - how much speed is he carrying there".......... Mr Pearson & Mr Louis jnr, never forget a speedway heat is never over until the chequered flag - especially when TG is one of the riders

TG - class act, worthy winner.

Just watch it again then.

Watch it again - without a Nicki Pedersen eye-patch on - and you will see Pedersen look to his right before he goes out wide. Simples.

Typical Little Nicki - dangerous. He sees Tomasz going wide and tries to take him out, forgetting that Tomasz is a brilliant motorbike rider, and ends up losing positions and looking stupid. Gollob looking back at him was pure class.

What total garbage. A boost to the GPs if Gollob and Hancock pull out? What rubbish. Until such time as a better rider arrives in the GP, I hope to see these two great riders (and I am no fan of Greg's) entertaining us for many years to come.

What a totally ridiculous thing to say.

I don't know about that decision, but the one he made in Heat 1 and when he excluded Gollob later in the meeting made him look a complete joke. Both decisions effectively stopped Tomasz making the semi-finals by 1pt and, as he had sorted out the track and his bike by then, he would have been a contender for the Final.