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Absolutely not... I'm rapidly heading that way myself, my point was why on earth are they playing deafening 90's club anthems over the PA when the majority of the crowd is over 60. Are they hoping that by playing this music the yoof (90's club anthems??) will flock to the track?

From what I can see so far the FRN is doing exactly what it's designed to do and cut down on the fixture clashes between PL and CL, the concept is right but the execution is wrong. IMO what they should have done was choose 2 out of Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and run on those days with the only exception of 1 televised meeting a week whenever BT Sport wanted to show it. All they had to do was steer clear of Tuesday and Wednesday for Sweden and Denmark. If that means waving goodbye to GP riders or riders racing in the Polish leagues then so be it. The time has come for riders to choose between 40 or so meetings in Britain or a handful elsewhere around Europe, it's time to put the sport first and not the riders

I don't think I've ever read through a more hysterical thread than this one on the forum and all over a nothing KOC match with some missing riders, you'd think people would be used to it by now after the last few years of DU madness! It probably points to deeper rooted problems at Lynn though. Anyway against my better judgement I decided to go to this one, probably with the memory and in the hope of how good KL used to be as opposed to the reality of today and here's my experience... Yes it was cold, that can't be helped but at least they'll move the meeting along... How it can take 2 hours and 10 minutes to run 15 60 second races is beyond me and there were no real incidents to speak of, Leicester managed 20 heats in 1 and 3/4 hours the night before. I'm stood on the terraces amongst a load of OAP's listening to deafening club anthems of the 90's, I find a new rule has been introduced to yet further rob the paying public of seeing the riders they've paid to see, I assume the centre green rule has been introduced to get lower insurance premiums or something?? And the actual racing on track was dog poop And all this at the home of the guy that's charged with running the "sport" in this country

Wow! Based on what I saw from last night it must have been terrible in the last season or two then!

I'm not sure but I thought the FRN was brought in not to attract GP riders back but to combat the effects of DU, or why then limit clubs to 1 rider over 8 points? But who knows with the BSPA!! Agree with everything else though. Most things I find, don't look too great when you put them under scrutiny and start trying to apply fixes. Look at Football and the VAR thing, a lot of your die hards are up in arms about it, a lot of your floaters (me included) couldn't really give a toss about it as long as we see a good game... but start piling fix upon fix upon fix and the product starts to look less and less attractive. In the last week I have been to Sheffield, Peterborough (Twice), Leicester and watched the GP on TV... and there was not a lot wrong with any of them, nice weather, good racing (Leicester the exception, obviously!) on well prepared tracks, with full line-ups but in front of woeful crowds (not GP). Having watched the sport deteriorate over the last 40 years I once wanted to see the top GP riders back in the BL, I've now come to terms that that's not going to happen in the foreseeable future, what I've realised was bothering me more recently was the DU of riders, the authorities have put actions in place to remedy this and from what I can see so far this season it seems to be working, yes you can question the FRN that they picked but I believe the concept is right while DU is in place, all they need to do now is choose the correct FRN's. I see Rory Schlein is running a pole on Twitter suggesting Friday and Saturday, which does seem to make more sense than Monday and Wednesday. 15 heats, 4 riders, 4 laps, settled 7 man teams, riding Friday & Saturday on a well prepared track, all done in 90 minutes, with 3 points for a win and an aggregate bonus point and a TS whenever 6 down... it really should be that simple!

You are talking about tracks that closed down over 30 years ago, it would have been interesting to see how today's rocket ships would have fared on those tracks, sadly we'll never know, it's a different sport these days. Genuine question: What was the official reason given for FRN? I thought it was to stop (or cut down) on rider absences due to the double up rule. I must admit that so far this season there seem to be a lot less guest and R/R than in recent years, which I am thankful for... but it's no good if you're playing in front of empty houses!

awful crowd for the TV match at BV... and I couldn't believe how few people were at Peterborough on Sunday on what was a gloriously sunny afternoon!

I doubt there are enough riders riding in the UK to sustain 1 league!

Is this the right thread for an argument? I'll have the 5 minute argument please

Perhaps because I wasn't sat next to you?

I honestly can't remember... But I also can't remember thinking "blimey Workington keep beating Peterborough out of the starts"... What I can remember thinking was "blimey Peterborough are being completely outclassed and the Workington riders are passing them for fun and BWD seems really fired up to perform against his old club" and I also remember thinking of witnessing Scott Nicholls debut around the EoES and how much it reminded me of how Dan Bewley was performing and that Nicholls is a shadow of the rider he used to be. Beats me why Peterborough signed him, BV binned him off because he wasn't fast enough around their big track, yet Peterborough sign him, surely he'd be better off at Arena

I don't know what all the talk of Peterborough riders not getting out of the start is all about? From what I saw it was pretty even it's just that the Panthers riders was being passed as if they were stood still by a far superior Workington team

Connor Mountain? It's only fair

Me for one!

Woffy! Woffy! Woffy!

Mate, unless you are actually flying from Riga next Sunday or Monday... I'm genuinely worried for you

Maybe they might have been had the BSPA not introduced rules this season to further prevent them from returning!

Speaking as a Coventry fan who lives about a mile away from the Leicester track and one who is trying to keep his enthusiasm for the "sport" alive after 40 years of continual knocks and degrading of the "sport" I don't really care whether it was Lamberts or RyanAirs fault. I just find it a real struggle these days to motivate myself to pay £17 to watch abysmal racing on a dusty track with (all respect to Connor Mountain) junior zero pointers turning out in place of international "stars".

KL do have form in mugging off the paying punter at Leicester, the 2 times they rode at Leicester last year they turned up with 4 guests and R/R and 2 guests and R/R If they can't be bothered why should I?

No Lambert! That's me out and £17 pound in pocket! Annoying though as I plumped for this over the BV match and declined an invitation to the cinema

Many years ago, I remember Terry Russell telling us that Speedway was a £10 sport and he was absolutely right, perhaps a man ahead of his time... the trouble is that at that time we were paying around £7 at the turnstiles. Today it should be a £10 sport

Saw this posted on Twitter by Mike Bennett, couldn't see it mentioned anywhere else, thought it was probably worth a mention on here: https://www.gofundme.com/zfnasr-battle-for-brett-the-long-road

You're right even I enjoyed it . But it was enjoyment from a pretty low baseline so far this season. I was fortunate enough to attend the new BV for a season while I was working away for a while and it saddens me to see what can be done with a blank canvass and how whoever designed the track at Leicester got it so badly wrong! Anyway we move on to Monday night... where I think we can almost guarantee a sun delay but at least KL fans will be well used to that ... I've just seen on Twitter they're promoting it as "Sunshine Speedway"... that's just taking the mick!

Is that right? You should try going every week

I thought last nights match was the most entertaining yet this season at BP. It started off quite well with a cracker of a race in heat 1 on a perfectly prepared track... I was then prepared for a sun delay which never came, which was a bonus. If I had to have a moan, which of course I do, it would be the lack of watering of the track, again it became slick and dusty all too quickly in the cold drying wind. Like I said it was perfect in heat 1 and no real attempt was made to keep it that way throughout the match