Peterborough Panthers 2023

[Mick Bratley]

1 hour ago, Racin Jason 72 said:

What’s the betting that the speedway will get kicked out and nothing will happen to the land for years. Just like lakeside Middlesbrough rye house Coventry Reading and Coventry. 

I reckon they will demolish the Grandstand, pits and safety fence at the first opportunity they get.

[LagutaRacingFan]

1 hour ago, TTT said:

All of these clubs and promoters fighting for Wolves' future yet they're silent when it comes to Peterborough.

Don't know about fellow Panthers fans but that doesn't sit well with me, Seems like they're all for the closure of Peterborough Speedway.

There's one significant difference.

Wolves Speedway are being kicked out of Monmore Green.

The Showground is being redeveloped and all sports/events are being cancelled.

Much harder to solve the former, than the latter.

[Crump99]

3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

I reckon they will demolish the Grandstand, pits and safety fence at the first opportunity they get.

Which is why the PCC Local Plan has to be highlighted now along with the provisions within it. If AEPG don't wish to accommodate Peterborough Speedway then LP30 "Existing Culture, Leisure, Tourism and Community Facilities" means that such an act of vandalism will result in a relocation cost to them with both land purchase and construction: "m - The proposal includes the provision of a new facility of a similar nature and of a similar or greater size in a suitable on or off-site location"

It certainly isn't a done deal as you say: The depot is a temporary use because AEPG has also submitted an outline planning application for a £50 million leisure village and 1,500 homes on the Showground - I assume that that's not been agreed so they have nothing yet? The resistance is growing and as far as we know they have nothing but the artists impression and glossy brochure? Much like the POSH ground on the embankment

Someone needs to keep an eye on them though because if this is how local residents feel after Monday's meeting with AEPG then we've got a bit of a problem: "But their overall attitude suggests they will just push on with this regardless and they are not interested in residents’ feelings"

Edited April 19, 2023 by Crump99

[maneacat]

3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

I reckon they will demolish the Grandstand, pits and safety fence at the first opportunity they get.

Yep - just to make sure there is no going back - sad! 
 

 

[mikebv]

3 hours ago, Mick Bratley said:

I reckon they will demolish the Grandstand, pits and safety fence at the first opportunity they get.

I wonder if they employ one of those security teams that seem to struggle to prevent fires happening in ex Speedway Grandstands...?

Edited April 19, 2023 by mikebv

[pleasureboy60]

I've been a supporter of Peterborough Speedway since the introduction in 1970.and as much as I've enjoyed some unbelievable years and some terrific racing, I.would sooner it all come to an end now rather than.later. Pull the plug now, rather than end up as the leagues whipping boys. Management, owners all seem.to have lost interest and I honestly don't think Chapman will waste anymore of his money  in trying  to bolster the squad.

It was never going to be a brilliant 1-7 this season as we left it far too.late in getting rider's signed up. Inevitably we've ended up with riders nobody else wanted and early results prove my point.

I honestly cant see it improving so turn off the lights, lock the gates and let's all remember the good times !

 

Edited April 19, 2023 by pleasureboy60
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[LagutaRacingFan]

14 minutes ago, pleasureboy60 said:

I've been a supporter of Peterborough Speedway since the introduction in 1970.and as much as I've enjoyed some unbelievable years and some terrific racing, I.would sooner it all come to an end now rather than.later. Pull the plug now, rather than end up as the leagues whipping boys. Management, owners all seem.to have lost interest and I honestly don't think Chapman will waste anymore of his money  in trying  to bolster the squad.

It was never going to be a brilliant 1-7 this season as we left it far too.late in getting rider's signed up. Inevitably we've ended up with riders nobody else wanted and early results prove my point.

I honestly cant see it improving so turn off the lights, lock the gates and let's all remember the good times !

 

Completely agree. Shut everything down.

The club can compensate season ticket holders by sending them a DVD of our win in 2006 vs Reading.

[Crump99]

6 minutes ago, BassoRacingFan said:

Completely agree. Shut everything down.

The club can compensate season ticket holders by sending them a DVD of our win in 2006 vs Reading.

Agreeing twice with Bratters in one day, that's a collectors item!

[Crump99]

13 hours ago, pleasureboy60 said:

I've been a supporter of Peterborough Speedway since the introduction in 1970.and as much as I've enjoyed some unbelievable years and some terrific racing, I.would sooner it all come to an end now rather than.later. Pull the plug now, rather than end up as the leagues whipping boys. Management, owners all seem.to have lost interest and I honestly don't think Chapman will waste anymore of his money  in trying  to bolster the squad.

It was never going to be a brilliant 1-7 this season as we left it far too.late in getting rider's signed up. Inevitably we've ended up with riders nobody else wanted and early results prove my point.

I honestly cant see it improving so turn off the lights, lock the gates and let's all remember the good times !

 

Thankfully some people are waking up and realising that AEPG throwing their weight around and everyone off site, and turning it into a car park, does in no way mean that they are anywhere near the prize of getting their plans approved. We are now in the trenches stage with hand to hand fighting next up.

Mick Bratley just gave an excellent interview on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire, talking about what the club means to him (as a 50 year fan which included his promotional tenure with the unforgettable 2006 (although not mentioned)), what the situation currently is as we all know it, and what could/should be the final outcome? Basically that means incorporating Peterborough Speedway in any new development or relocation at the expense of AEPG or their masters as detailed in LP 30 (amusingly PCC were reported not to be aware of the protection order in their own plan )

Edited April 20, 2023 by Crump99

[Crump99]

Listen here https://audioboom.com/posts/8284634-bbc-radio-cambs-20-april-2023-concerns-about-the-closure-of-peterborough-panthers-mick-bratley-in

[proud panther]

16 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

Listen here https://audioboom.com/posts/8284634-bbc-radio-cambs-20-april-2023-concerns-about-the-closure-of-peterborough-panthers-mick-bratley-in

He likes his erm's, challenger for Darren Moore of the Owls lol. Seriously, we need to support Mick, as he seems to be the only person who is willing to bring this issue into the public eye.

[scoobydoo]

28 minutes ago, proud panther said:

He likes his erm's, challenger for Darren Moore of the Owls lol. Seriously, we need to support Mick, as he seems to be the only person who is willing to bring this issue into the public eye.

At least he cares more than the current owner who no doubt is just waiting to hear if he gets any compensation and how much it will be .

[Purplepanthernotred]

37 minutes ago, proud panther said:

He likes his erm's, challenger for Darren Moore of the Owls lol. Seriously, we need to support Mick, as he seems to be the only person who is willing to bring this issue into the public eye.

Having listened to micks radio interview and spoken to MT the way forward is certainly to support what Mick Bratley is saying as and where we can. 
 

The development seems so disorganized and this could potentially be the only thing that plays into the panthers hand. Here’s hoping for a miracle 

[maneacat]

42 minutes ago, scoobydoo said:

At least he cares more than the current owner who no doubt is just waiting to hear if he gets any compensation and how much it will be .

My impression is that the timing suits our current owner - he’s had enough and gets out with compensation!  
 

 

[Crump99]

1 hour ago, proud panther said:

He likes his erm's, challenger for Darren Moore of the Owls lol. Seriously, we need to support Mick, as he seems to be the only person who is willing to bring this issue into the public eye.

It's an age thing. We need more thinking time as we lose brain cells: speaking personally of course and not for Bratters!

Mick's the man in such times of crisis and you want to be on his side. Only orion and a few from the former fun palace of WWoS thought differently

AEPG clearly thought/think that this will go through with a nod so it's great that people like Mick are now waking people up to the fact that only AEPG seem to feel that they've got an easy run through.

They don't want a fuss. Just look at a quote from Monday's meeting with the locals: "At one point AEPG asked residents not to discuss matters on social media" - which shows a lack of understanding of the world we now live in, that was the response from Cllr Stevenson as mentioned in Bratters interview.

[sneezy]

It is a shame Mick is an EX promoter !

[Flappy]

21 minutes ago, maneacat said:

My impression is that the timing suits our current owner - he’s had enough and gets out with compensation!  
 

 

Correct this is the biggest hurdle for me.  This is where we need to hear from MT 

[Crump99]

2 minutes ago, Flappy said:

Correct this is the biggest hurdle for me.  This is where we need to hear from MT 

We only need to hear when something is agreed and in black & white. Drip feeding rumours, speculation, decisions not agreed and a wish list helps nobody and just seems to rile people like Buster. When will people learn?

[Mick Bratley]

8 hours ago, maneacat said:

My impression is that the timing suits our current owner - he’s had enough and gets out with compensation!  
 

 

I’m not so sure about compensation, I think that’s misguided. In real terms as things stand, Buster has nothing to sell and a buyer for the club has nothing to buy, apart from a club name on a Speedway licence.

I think all criticism of Buster is unfair, he’s doing his best for sure in my opinion, he IS a good guy and does want the club to survive. It’s not easy running a Speedway club and very often, actually always, it’s about mitigating losses rather than making a profit.

There certainly won’t be any compensation from AEPG unless they comply with the Peterborough Local Plan and specifically policy LP40, where they should provide a new facility. But seemingly some councillors haven’t read the local plan since it was made available in 2016. It’s a tough read though. LOL (Page78 is relevant to Panthers, the document is on the Peterborough City Council website).

Edited April 20, 2023 by Mick Bratley

[scoobydoo]

20 minutes ago, Crump99 said:

We only need to hear when something is agreed and in black & white. Drip feeding rumours, speculation, decisions not agreed and a wish list helps nobody and just seems to rile people like Buster. When will people learn?

He needs to at least  come out and say what his intentions are,  by keeping silent hes just letting people form there negative opinions of him from his apparent lack of interest in saving the club he owns,

Peterborough fans then know the score , he's said practically nothing since the announcement of the Panthers racing in 2023 at the end of  the 2022 season what does he expect.

Edited April 20, 2023 by scoobydoo