proud panther Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: "Of course he will keep Kings Lynn going, he makes a fortune out of the sh@t beer & burgers." "Very high profit margin for a very poor product. Fortune probably isn't the best word to use to be fair to you." Sh!t beer and fortune. You almost answered it yourself, see above. There might be a high profit margin on food and drink, but with our low crowds, you have to sell them to make a profit. Selling burgers and "sh!t" beer won't pay for much more than 2 points out of 45 or so. With respect, I have been in the fast food business for 35 years, & it would pay for a lot more than 2 points. You seem to have a problem with anything anti Buster, & conveniently didn't respond to my other replies I mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 7 hours ago, SPEEDY69 said: I think you're referring to Peterborough here surely - undoubtedly the most expensive and poor quality food outlet across British Speedway I've come across. The stuff served up at Lynn is ok by comparison - the best quality/value I've had is at Ipswich - but the speedway club don't get any of those profits/receipts. I think most speedway food is very poor value, & agree Peterborough is amongst the worst. The point I was trying to make was if Lynn closed, Buster wouldn't get any revenue from the food & drink outlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, TTT said: It'll be a championship rider replacing Laguta. Wouldn't be shocked if it was one of Castagna, Mountain or Heeps. It will be a guest if Laguta leaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 10:49 PM, ArtemFan said: I believe the reality is that Brady was happy with the financial situation he left behind. However this was based on larger attendances. Apparently Lynn need approx 900 fans to break even based on their current commitments, so i guess anything less is what's causing Buster to suggest they are over budget. Brady quitting for personal reasons couldn't be helped but unfortunately one thing he has to take responsibility for is that he built an extremely poor team at the start of the season and now Lynn are paying the price for it. When they come back to tapes, i expect there will be at least one rider change which will reduce the cost of the team. It's nonsense to say quitting couldn't be helped, he had a choice, has he quit is other business too? He may have had to scale back team management, but he should of fulfilled his duty to run the club until the end of the season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whathappenedwas Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: It's nonsense to say quitting couldn't be helped, he had a choice, has he quit is other business too? He may have had to scale back team management, but he should of fulfilled his duty to run the club until the end of the season. I see one of your interests is family? Brady made a choice and put family before Speedway, if you knew the circumstances i'm sure you would have made the same decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 28 minutes ago, proud panther said: With respect, I have been in the fast food business for 35 years, & it would pay for a lot more than 2 points. You seem to have a problem with anything anti Buster, & conveniently didn't respond to my other replies I mentioned. Not at all. The way it came across to me was that you was taking the pee at a difficult time for the club..Of course he wouldn’t sell any if he closed down.. Remind me of those replies,and I’ll do my best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, ArtemFan said: I see one of your interests is family? Brady made a choice and put family before Speedway, if you knew the circumstances i'm sure you would have made the same decision. He really should have put family first in the first place.These things happen in life though and you have to do what you think is best afterwards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ArtemFan said: I see one of your interests is family? Brady made a choice and put family before Speedway, if you knew the circumstances i'm sure you would have made the same decision. Has he quit his other business then? I wouldn't make a committment without thinking about how this would affect my family. Yes things change but he should of kept his committment to the club until the end of the season. Edited July 12, 2023 by SUPERACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 hours ago, SUPERACE said: Has he quit his other business then? I wouldn't make a committment without thinking about how this would affect my family. Yes things change but he should have kept his committment to the club until the end of the season. Totally agree - he had his family before this season started and should have definitely finished the season then stepped down - in reality he’s walked away leaving Buster to pick the carnage up and could ultimately spell the end of the club . Sadly Brady could be remembered for one thing . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 In the Speedway Star interview with Alex Brady, he said that the "TV money" completely covered Laguta's salary to the end of the season, with the money from Discovery held in a separate company account which he didn't control... If Artem's costs are covered, does that mean the rest of the team are "over budget" as was quoted...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, mikebv said: In the Speedway Star interview with Alex Brady, he said that the "TV money" completely covered Laguta's salary to the end of the season, with the money from Discovery held in a separate company account which he didn't control... If Artem's costs are covered, does that mean the rest of the team are "over budget" as was quoted...? Dread to think what BV's, Sheffield's or Ipswich's budgets are if the rest of the Lynn team is "over budget". Maybe some riders are being overpaid for their services. However, I would've thought Laguta would be the only one on a guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, mikebv said: In the Speedway Star interview with Alex Brady, he said that the "TV money" completely covered Laguta's salary to the end of the season, with the money from Discovery held in a separate company account which he didn't control... If Artem's costs are covered, does that mean the rest of the team are "over budget" as was quoted...? It’s quite possible that Brady was happy to break even whereas Buster isn’t happy unless he is making money, which is what he would want from the TV money? Interesting to know how much the TV money is, as others previously quoted that it was peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 hours ago, TTT said: It'll be a championship rider replacing Laguta. Wouldn't be shocked if it was one of Castagna, Mountain or Heeps. How shocked and apologetic might you be if he keeps Laguta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 hours ago, Speedball said: I’m expecting Laguta to go and we’ll use guests due to “special dispensation” or “best interests of the sport”. Something of that ilk. Wouldn’t be surprised to see someone like Barker replace Thomson to “strengthen” the side. Christ, it’s depressing being a Stars fan at times. It's all in the mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarBoy Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: It's all in the mind! Do you know something we don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, StarBoy said: Do you know something we don't? To be honest I wouldn't know but then neither does anyone else yet. If you look back over the various threads associated with King's Lynn and the vitriol towards Buster it is too often based on a poster's opinion, comment or thought and not facts, I'm weary of it and I know I don't have to read it but I genuinely feel that so many negative posts are as equally harmful to the sport as some of the decisions made within it. Buster had both clubs pre-sold and was on his exit route when for whatever reason it all went pear shaped, it takes two parties to make a deal and only one to break it - which party is really responsible will never truly be known. In the case of both of Buster's clubs so called; friends, acquaintances, people "in the know" and even the haters have given opinions but if the truth is out there it's clear no-one believes it. The sale and/or exchange of a business is usually preceded by a "Heads of Terms " agreement that usually includes a confidentiality agreement that restricts those involved as to what if anything they can reveal and unless a sunset clause is embodied it can last forever. Did the sale of these businesses get that far? Who knows? That is my point - nobody really knows except those directly involved and I don't see them posting on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 11 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Not at all. The way it came across to me was that you was taking the pee at a difficult time for the club..Of course he wouldn’t sell any if he closed down.. Remind me of those replies,and I’ll do my best. I asked why you mentioned MT in your post, & said I don't want any speedway club to fold. Haven't really got an opinion on MT, as I don't know him, & don't know the facts regarding this seasons fiasco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 56 minutes ago, Najjer said: It’s quite possible that Brady was happy to break even whereas Buster isn’t happy unless he is making money, which is what he would want from the TV money? Interesting to know how much the TV money is, as others previously quoted that it was peanuts. In the interview he quoted the "£10k a night" nonsense mentioned by some, and said that it was not even near half that.. So. Let's say it is somewhere between 3k and 4k a night, and Artem was only booked in for say 10 meetings (who knows if certain meetings were not required?), then you can maybe suggest around £30k (ish) for the deal? 7 tracks sharing around circa £250k maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Byker Biker said: To be honest I wouldn't know but then neither does anyone else yet. If you look back over the various threads associated with King's Lynn and the vitriol towards Buster it is too often based on a poster's opinion, comment or thought and not facts, I'm weary of it and I know I don't have to read it but I genuinely feel that so many negative posts are as equally harmful to the sport as some of the decisions made within it. Buster had both clubs pre-sold and was on his exit route when for whatever reason it all went pear shaped, it takes two parties to make a deal and only one to break it - which party is really responsible will never truly be known. In the case of both of Buster's clubs so called; friends, acquaintances, people "in the know" and even the haters have given opinions but if the truth is out there it's clear no-one believes it. The sale and/or exchange of a business is usually preceded by a "Heads of Terms " agreement that usually includes a confidentiality agreement that restricts those involved as to what if anything they can reveal and unless a sunset clause is embodied it can last forever. Did the sale of these businesses get that far? Who knows? That is my point - nobody really knows except those directly involved and I don't see them posting on this forum. Just what shifty Chapman deserves for all the under hand dealings and stupid antics he’s been up to. The common denominator with these deals going pear shaped is Chapman. Over the years he has fallen out with everyone. You will never get to the facts because Chapman is a devious little sh*t who doesn’t tell the truth. Most people, even them that have stood up for Chapman, now realise what a dodgy untrustworthy bloke he is and what’s happening at KL and PB is all down to him. He has brought all of this on himself as what goes around comes around. The fans of both clubs deserve better. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, proud panther said: I asked why you mentioned MT in your post, & said I don't want any speedway club to fold. Haven't really got an opinion on MT, as I don't know him, & don't know the facts regarding this seasons fiasco. Because i thought you were having a pop at Lynn when they are in trouble for no fault of Buster. He was left in the sh!t by the promoter.. So i gave it back with a dig back. It's all a bit silly really, but all the people on here blaming Buster for everything, don't know either, It is their opinion. The same is it's just my opinion. The truth might be somewhere in between, who knows. As I've said before, a simple statement from MT is all that's needed to stop the speculation.. I know there's a lot going on behind the scenes regarding keeping both clubs going. Not so sure on the sale thing. I'm sure no real speedway fan wants any club to close. Edited July 13, 2023 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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