Birmingham Brummies 2023

[ruffdiamond]

3 minutes ago, HGould said:

It's technical bankruptcy not full

They carry on running essential services under supervision and have to be monitored. 

A see, so they carry on but, under the watchful eye of 'the insolvency guy'?,,, making sure they're not wastefully using money, (best of luck to them). 

Not really akin to a normal bankruptcy then? 

[ruffdiamond]

2 minutes ago, Biffa said:

Said on the radio today that it cost approx 1/2 billion pounds to build the Commonwealth Games Village but it wasn’t finished in time so the athletes had to be put up elsewhere. Don’t know if true but shocking if it is. 

When does the Council ever do anything on time? 

[GiveusaB]

On 9/4/2023 at 3:29 PM, Ben91 said:

I think herein lies the answer. Fans won’t flock to a venue and team that were once their rivals. Should a new venture start with no ties to former clubs (and therefore no rivalries), then it becomes a more palatable option for otherwise partisan fans of other clubs. 

Then it's a sad world we live in.

About time people got over their egos!

 

Edited September 5, 2023 by GiveusaB

[Brummies_Ste]

57 minutes ago, Biffa said:

Said on the radio today that it cost approx 1/2 billion pounds to build the Commonwealth Games Village but it wasn’t finished in time so the athletes had to be put up elsewhere. Don’t know if true but shocking if it is. 

This is part true not sure about the half billion figure but the site for the village is now  a housing site with hundreds of houses & flats.

Also the Commonwealth games made a profit & the money has been used for various projects across the city.  

 

[Ben91]

10 minutes ago, GiveusaB said:

Then it's a sad world we live in.

About time people got over their egos!

 

That’s the tribal aspect of sport I suppose. 

I don’t really get it with Speedway, but then Rye House never had huge local rivals so the option of popping down the road to see some speedway at a rival track isn’t there for me. 

That said, if my football team closed down I would absolutely not be going to support our rivals even if they did happen to be the next closest team to watch. 

[uk_martin]

2 hours ago, Biffa said:

Said on the radio today that it cost approx 1/2 billion pounds to build the Commonwealth Games Village but it wasn’t finished in time so the athletes had to be put up elsewhere. Don’t know if true but shocking if it is. 

The Pandemic got in the way of timescales, so yes, the athletes were put up in Student Accommodation on the University campuses in Birmingham. 

The construction of 947 apartments on the site of the former University, which can be clearly seen on photos of the stadium was finished not long after the Commonwealth Games. And to this date, not a single person lives in any of them. Not one has been sold and not one has been rented out. And nobody has any idea when the rest of the development site is going to be started upon, which will feature more apartments between those already constructed and the One Stop Shopping Centre (to the south of the stadium) and an estate of town houses that will be built between the apartments and Wellhead Lane.

All this available development land and all these unoccupied properties, and someone thinks it's a great idea to tear down a functioning facility in order to build more apartments that might also never be sold or rented. It Beggers belief.

[uk_martin]

14 hours ago, HGould said:

after the 2004 to 2012 Tory led Council lost a Court case about pay inequality in 2010

Oh wow, Love the way that you can't resist a dig at the Tories for their 8 years in tenure, in which they were actually in coalition with the Lib/Dems. So, it's all their fault now? Nothing to do with Labour who were in charge forever before 2004 and who've been in charge for the 11 years since 2012? But hey, don't let the facts get in the way of a good politically motivated punchline, eh?  In reality the Equal Pay dispute has been decades in the making, decades in the disputing by ALL political parties, and now has finally been acknowledged as a major issue following years of heads of all persuasions being buried in the sand. If you want to point the fingers of blame, look to the Unions who have the ability to pull their bin MEN out on strike if they don't get juicer cuts of the pay budget as opposed to those Unions in the social care sector who look after mainly WOMEN who aren't as militant and consequently couldn't hold the council to the same level of blackmail, leading to the pay inequalities that resulted. Add up the little differences here and the little differences there, and they all add up over time, and it's been a long time in the making.

And in any case, the issues over the lease on the stadium and the Planning Application will be over before the next council election so any thoughts about the political landscape changing is not going to alter anything.

[heathen52]

On 9/3/2023 at 5:07 PM, tyretrax said:

heathen52, Perry Barr is owned by National Asset Management Agency, Birmingham CC own the freehold,

Do you mean the Irish Government Quango https://www.nama.ie/  ?.

Edited September 6, 2023 by heathen52

[Deano]

2 hours ago, heathen52 said:

Do you mean the Irish Government Quango https://www.nama.ie/  ?.

I’d like to know where tyretrax gets this info from. A BCC spokesman said the developer owns PB.

[tyretrax]

4 hours ago, Deano said:

I’d like to know where tyretrax gets this info from. A BCC spokesman said the developer owns PB.

As I said, Asset Management own PB, the council own the freehold. Do you want telephone numbers or something?

Edited September 6, 2023 by tyretrax

[Deano]

23 minutes ago, tyretrax said:

As I said, Asset Management own PB, the council own the freehold. Do you want telephone numbers or something?

Not according to BCC

taken from the article:

As for the council's stance regarding the future of Perry Barr Stadium, a spokesman said: "The city council owns the freehold of the Perry Barr Greyhound Stadium, while the Corbally Group are the long-term leaseholders – so any redevelopment on the site must be agreed with the council as the landowner and through its planning process, in line with local and national policy.

[PaulBrummie]

According to the Land Registry details:

1. The freehold of Perry Barr Stadium is owned by Birmingham City Council. 

2. There is a long leasehold interest of 99 years running from 17 January 1986. The lease was originally granted by the Council to Perry Barr Greyhound Racing Club Limited. The Land Registry shows this long leasehold as now being owned by St Francis Group (Perry Barr) Limited. It was acquired from the Perry Barr Greyhound Racing Club Limited by St Francis in July 2015.

According to Companies House, the St. Francis company is part of the Corbally Group and the company  has subsequently changed its name to Corbally Group (Perry Barr) Limited. 

3. There is a short leasehold interest of 15 years running from 15 July 2013. This short lease was originally granted by the Perry Barr Greyhound Racing Club Limited to GRA Limited. This company (and effectively the underlying lease) was acquired by Arena Racing Corporation Limited in 2019. The lease is subject to a charge held by an Irish registered lender (TFB Mortgages).

I do not know if this Irish company is linked to the National Asset Management Agency (an Irish government backed organisation) referred to in the earlier posts.

[Petecc]

What a tangled wicked Web property development weaves. 

[heathen52]

1 hour ago, Petecc said:

What a tangled wicked Web property development weaves. 

Especially this one, apparently a Mr PJ Kelly is a director of Corbally Group (Perry Barr) and several others which at one time or another totalled 96 directorships https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/XFQxt_lQsAnD5bcctGx62nSRddE/appointments so maybe he is a person who could give the Brummies some hope in the near future, on the other hand most of his appointments appear to be in the property development area of which he has fingers in many pies, some of which are Irish which brings us back to NAMA and tangled webs etc etc.

[Argos]

Have the Brummies any more meetings before the end of the Season?

[Fozzie4388]

40 minutes ago, Argos said:

Have the Brummies any more meetings before the end of the Season?

Think they're planning an Alan Grahame memorial meeting vs a Cradley select before the seasons out

[arnieg]

2 hours ago, Fozzie4388 said:

Think they're planning an Alan Grahame memorial meeting vs a Cradley select before the seasons out

Any sign of the under 19?

[False dawn]

3 hours ago, arnieg said:

Any sign of the under 19?

Good question

[Chris116]

3 hours ago, arnieg said:

Any sign of the under 19?

BSPL appear to be sweeping this under the carpet along with many other things that encourage and help young riders, like doing their best to ruin the NDL which resulted in IOW leaving and racing under NORA. 

[Petecc]

4 hours ago, arnieg said:

Any sign of the under 19?

Planning the under 19s with the on going play offs will be a slow shuffle of dates. It's not been brushed under any carpets yet and I hope it never will be.