therefused Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 6 hours ago, CheCazzo said: And maybe the fact a lot of the keyboard warriors on here wouldn't say most of the nasty stuff to his face gives a true indication to their characters? of course i wouldnt as hes more than likely to give someone a hiding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 7 hours ago, CheCazzo said: And maybe the fact a lot of the keyboard warriors on here wouldn't say most of the nasty stuff to his face gives a true indication to their characters? I am in no way defending the actions and crimes of Mr Garrity. They were truly deplorable and he deserved what he got. He does deserve another go though if he has finally grown up and got his sh*t together. I can only go by the young Jason I knew when I was involved at Coventry. He could be a very naughty boy when it suited him but he was also a really nice kid as well with a cracking sense of humour and was brilliant with the fans especially pre meeting in the pits. Unfortunately as usually happens in Speedway he was quickly hyped up and became surrounded with yes men and hangers on and that did go to his head. Inside Jason there is that nice kid. Hopefully as he matures he will atone his sins, give back to society and surround himself with the right people. Who in their right mind would confront a guy who has been convicted of robbing two OAP's , one which was bed bound & another that needed a little scooter to help her get about? Don't forget that he was also convicted for carrying a knife during these attacks. He doesn't sound like " a really nice kid"to me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) There's no reason on this earth why Jason shouldn't be allowed to resume his racing career, he's done the crime and done the time. he should be given the chance to make amends. if you don't want to go to see him don't go, simple as that, but am afraid you'll be in the minority. Edited 9 hours ago by Dornier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 23 hours ago, WookieboyDon said: To all the fools on here saying "Give him another chance", like he hasn't had more than enough already and clearly still hasn't leant his lesson... If it was your grandparent/relation that he had held at knifepoint in their own home, demanding bank cards to then wipe out their bank account...you wouldn't be defending him then would you?!!! It shouldn't matter whether it was your own relation or somebody else's, he is a vile scumbag who carried out the above crime...and still has a flagrant lack of respect for the law given his recent recalls to prison for breaching his licence. If he really wanted to change, that wouldn't have happened would it? Find Legal Aid His interview in Speedway Star earlier this year summed him up...crocodile tears and full of bullsh*t with no remorse, him lying about what he did the best example of that. If you want to pay his wages, go ahead...but when he lets your team down during the season because he is inside again, you asked for it. No whinging or whining...just wait for when he is released again and you can give him 'another chance'. If it were your son / daughter who had comited a crime I take it you would be in agreement for him / her to being barred from ever working again. Edited 8 hours ago by Dornier edited 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Dornier said: If it were your son / daughter who had comited a crime I take it you would be in agreement for him / her to being barred from ever working again. If they are the consequences of such actions then so be it. That's the only way you learn a lesson. What makes it worse is that he has been recalled to prison TWICE for breaking the terms of his licence after his release. That's not remorseful, that's a continuation of doing what you like and who gives a sh*t about the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Dornier said: There's no reason on this earth why Jason shouldn't be allowed to resume his racing career, he's done the crime and done the time. he should be given the chance to make amends. if you don't want to go to see him don't go, simple as that, but am afraid you'll be in the minority. Again, how many chances?!! He keeps being recalled to prison for breaching licence. Hardly wanting to stay on the straight and narrow is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 8 hours ago Report Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 19 hours ago, Dave Jones said: What a stupid comparison , absolutely clueless reply. Why is it a stupid comparison? https://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/23205865.cleator-moor-man-accused-strangling-partner-case-dismissed/ both seem to be troubled men with substance abuse possibly behind their actions, unfortunately there are criminals and unsavoury types in all walks of life and speedway isn’t immune to that Edited 7 hours ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Why is it a stupid comparison? https://www.timesandstar.co.uk/news/23205865.cleator-moor-man-accused-strangling-partner-case-dismissed/ both seem to be troubled men with substance abuse possibly behind their actions, unfortunately there are criminals and unsavoury types in all walks of life and speedway isn’t immune to that I think everyone understands that Craig Cook's problems are down to his mental health issues & he obviously needs help. The bottom line here is that all that he was found guilty of is throwing the phone away, unlike Garrity who has been punished for a despicable offence & even after getting out on release can't keep to the terms & conditions.The guy is a habitual offender unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, WookieboyDon said: Again, how many chances?!! He keeps being recalled to prison for breaching licence. Hardly wanting to stay on the straight and narrow is he? How is that a reason to stop him working for a living ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WookieboyDon Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Dornier said: How is that a reason to stop him working for a living ? Really?!! So it's okay to continually break the law? 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, Dornier said: There's no reason on this earth why Jason shouldn't be allowed to resume his racing career, he's done the crime and done the time. he should be given the chance to make amends. if you don't want to go to see him don't go, simple as that, but am afraid you'll be in the minority. Minority? Are you sure? Most people on here seem to think he's a 'wrong un' (polite version). He's carried out despicable crimes, yes he's done some time, but some would argue he's not done enough. I do agree he deserves the chance to make amends, but is there any evidence at all he wants to actually make amends, by serving his community in some way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dave Jones said: I think everyone understands that Craig Cook's problems are down to his mental health issues & he obviously needs help. The bottom line here is that all that he was found guilty of is throwing the phone away, unlike Garrity who has been punished for a despicable offence & even after getting out on release can't keep to the terms & conditions.The guy is a habitual offender unfortunately. The difference was the police did their job properly in one conviction and not the other but the point I’m making is there are many less than perfect people riding speedway past and present and it’s always been like that, garrity is possibly destined for more crime or jail time unless he can get a purpose for life, speedway is that purpose whether you like it or not 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: The difference was the police did their job properly in one conviction and not the other but the point I’m making is there are many less than perfect people riding speedway past and present and it’s always been like that, garrity is possibly destined for more crime or jail time unless he can get a purpose for life, speedway is that purpose whether you like it or not The difference is that one guy was found guilty of the charge & the other wasn't. I'm not the only one on this topic showing contempt for Garrity's crime & they perhaps ,like myself, feel that it would be much better if he found "his purpose in life" somewhere else so that he can't influence younger speedway supporters into thinking his approach is an acceptable one. There's always the bigger picture to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave Jones said: The difference is that one guy was found guilty of the charge & the other wasn't. Did you read the story ? And what if garrity took the rap for someone else which I don’t know if he did or not but it’s certainly been a story floating around since he went inside and another story floating around is he already has a team place in the prem for next season, I don’t know if that true either but if you don’t like the fact he will be back in British speedway then don’t go and watch when he rides Edited 1 hour ago by THE DEAN MACHINE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted 59 minutes ago Report Share Posted 59 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: Did you read the story ? And what if garrity took the rap for someone else which I don’t know if he did or not but it’s certainly been a story floating around since he went inside and another story floating around is he already has a team place in the prem for next season, I don’t know if that true either but if you don’t like the fact he will be back in British speedway then don’t go and watch when he rides I think I would prefer to believe the evidence that is out there for all to see thanks . I don't take much notice of the gossip element floating around,, but i do understand it is one of your specialities, also I'm pretty sure that I'm capable of deciding for myself whether i should watch or not, so no advice required from yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted just now Report Share Posted just now 57 minutes ago, Dave Jones said: I think I would prefer to believe the evidence that is out there for all to see thanks . I don't take much notice of the gossip element floating around,, but i do understand it is one of your specialities, also I'm pretty sure that I'm capable of deciding for myself whether i should watch or not, so no advice required from yourself. Yes you have that about you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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