bomscot 0 Posted November 7, 2007 Hi what do people think about bringing back the golden helmet match race. top scorer from team races against holder for winner. used to be good in the old days. from bomscot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted November 8, 2007 (edited) Hi what do people think about bringing back the golden helmet match race. top scorer from team races against holder for winner. used to be good in the old days. from bomscot <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah! Memories of Jack Parker, Bill Kitchen, Ron Johnson, Vic Duggan in contention for the Sunday Pictorial/Sunday Mirror golden helmet match race championship. Years and years ago. A golden helmet in speedway's golden days...1946 to the early 1950s (for me at least). http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Edited September 6, 2008 by speedyguy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star ghost 7 Posted November 9, 2007 The real Golden Helmet was one challenge a month. The later effort of top scorer v holder every match was little more than a second-half race added to the normal programme of events, only one heat at that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted November 10, 2007 The real Golden Helmet was one challenge a month. The later effort of top scorer v holder every match was little more than a second-half race added to the normal programme of events, only one heat at that <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's what took all the prestige out of the event. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted November 11, 2007 The Golden Helmet was raced with best of 3 home, best of 3 away and if needed the best of 3 at a neutral track. In those days, riders were free to travel from Wimbledon toi Belle Vue for possibly two heats but when riders starting riding more in Sweden, Poland etc each week it was changed to the holder takes on the top scorer of that match. This took the prestige off the event while sometimes the holder was missing due to World Championship meetings and there was no match race run at all. Maybe the helmet could go to the winner of heat 15 in each match the present holder rides in ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colincooke 0 Posted November 12, 2007 As i remember the Golden Helmet in the 70s & 80s the match races only occured when the holders team visited a particular track or that rider was racing a home fixture.It would be great to see it come back run on this basis & then there would be no extra travelling costs etc as the competitors will already be at the venue. The holder should race v the top scorer in the opposing team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,109 Posted November 13, 2007 Ah! Memories of Jack Parker, Bill Kitchen, Ron Johnson, Vic Duggan in contention for the Sunday Pictorial/Sunday Mirror golden helmet match race championship. Years and years ago. A golden helmet in speedway's golden days...1946 to the early 1950s (for me at least). http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've just been going through Speedway News for 1948. Whenever there was a match race challenge it was really big news. Every month, there would be speculation on who would be nominated as the next challenger, when the nomination was made there was much editorialising over whether the right choice had been made, and then when the match races themselves took place, reporting on the races was always the front page lead. Can't see us ever getting back to those days... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedyguy 20 Posted November 13, 2007 I've just been going through Speedway News for 1948. Whenever there was a match race challenge it was really big news. Every month, there would be speculation on who would be nominated as the next challenger, when the nomination was made there was much editorialising over whether the right choice had been made, and then when the match races themselves took place, reporting on the races was always the front page lead. Can't see us ever getting back to those days... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, how sad it is when we look back at those wonderful old days and then reflect on what we are presented with in so many instances in modern times. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/oldtimespeedway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star ghost 7 Posted November 13, 2007 In the old days it was possible to increase crowds by building up a match race during the previous weeks leading up to the event. With the highest scorer due to meet the holder you couldn't do this as the "holder" might have lost the title the night before, then you have no event to run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Know 221 Posted December 21, 2007 I thought this had been replaced with the purple helmet which was now contested by the elite promoters and won by most of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike9 0 Posted July 24, 2008 Bring the Golden Helmet back that's what I say. It add's just that little bit more entertainment value to a meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcat 21 Posted August 25, 2008 I would add my weight to that, bring back the Golden Helmet, as it used to be. Best of 3 home and away, with any decider on a neutral track.... I can still picture John Louis, who was a bit of a specialist in the Golden Helmet, when he smashed the track record at Foxhall, whilst beating Dave Jessup.... I'd kill to see that kind of thing again.... And people ridicule the old days... they don't know what they missed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrankieCot 0 Posted August 30, 2009 Hi what do people think about bringing back the golden helmet match race. top scorer from team races against holder for winner. used to be good in the old days. from bomscot Hi, The golden helmet returning I think is a great idea, for many years I was intrigued by this event. The rider in form usually managed to win even if he was on the away track. With the amount of great riders around today this would be very interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted August 31, 2009 The Golden Helmet was always a good extra to a meeting but these days riders finish heat 15, get showered and then off to the next meeting. They don't need any extra ware and tear on equipment and would want paying for these extra rides. Although it would be nice, I cant see it happening but maybe another idea would be to include heat 15 results in a competition. At the end of the season, the top two riders with the most race points from each track would then be selected for the ELRC (bottom two as reserves) where the trophy could be the Golden Helmet. Otherwise, you could have the top rider at each track go forward to a Golden Helmet meeting held at say Cardiff (on the Sunday) or even alongside the Silver Helmet with the meeting held at a central track like Birmingham, Coventry or Wolves. You would then have 9 top EL riders competing in three groups of three for the Golden Helmet and 14 top PL riders competing in groups. All races would be match races with the meeting lasting about 40 heats of two riders.If you could get on average 100 fans from each track, thats a pretty good crowd and help pay for the prize money as well as making it a charity meeting for injured riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirt 0 Posted September 1, 2009 The Golden Helmet was always a good extra to a meeting but these days riders finish heat 15, get showered and then off to the next meeting. They don't need any extra ware and tear on equipment and would want paying for these extra rides. Although it would be nice, I cant see it happening but maybe another idea would be to include heat 15 results in a competition. At the end of the season, the top two riders with the most race points from each track would then be selected for the ELRC (bottom two as reserves) where the trophy could be the Golden Helmet. Otherwise, you could have the top rider at each track go forward to a Golden Helmet meeting held at say Cardiff (on the Sunday) or even alongside the Silver Helmet with the meeting held at a central track like Birmingham, Coventry or Wolves. You would then have 9 top EL riders competing in three groups of three for the Golden Helmet and 14 top PL riders competing in groups. All races would be match races with the meeting lasting about 40 heats of two riders.If you could get on average 100 fans from each track, thats a pretty good crowd and help pay for the prize money as well as making it a charity meeting for injured riders. that has to be the most deluded confusing suggestion ever contrieved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites