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  1. E I Addio

    European Union - In Or Out?

    You can see it. I can see it, but for some reason there are plenty that can’t. However, in a free country it is very difficult to tell people where they can live and what they can do. That does not absolve the politicians from blame but it is a mess.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    Well if you are judgemental on good evidence where is your evidence that I either follow or despise Johnson , Cummings or Farage as you say ? I don’t care much for Johnson’s morals but I don’t despise him, Cummings is yesterday’s news and Farage I nave always been up front about, I think he is a very good commentator, far better than most ,great at highlighting the problems but not so good at finding solutions. I note what you say about Public School boys commanding top jobs, and it’s probably not far from the truth , but I don’t see what that’s got to do with the majority of pensioners supposedly voting for Brexit. It seems to me you are tarring all pensioners with the same brush when it comes to opting for Brexit when in fact , like everybody else pensioners are all very different. Rich and poor, clever and uneducated, lucky and unlucky in life .
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    Public school is not University, and anyway I don’t judge people by their accents I don’t know what, if any spurious qualifications Johnson , Cummings and Farage have, so you’ll have to enlighten me on that before I can comment. How do you draw the conclusion I either follow or despise Johnson etc ? I neither follow or despise any of them beyond the fact they happen to be public figures in the news. This seems to be your problem, you are very judgmental of people and it makes sensible discussion very difficult
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    I suggest you read “Who Runs Britain ? “ by Robert Peston. That is not the way hedge funds and asset strippers work .The way he describes Gordon Browns mismanagement of the economy and his sucking up to hedge funds by tax breaksis an eye opener. It was under Browns stewardship of the economy that hedge fund managers were paying less tax than their office cleaners. Much of our manufacturing industry was lost because of high labour costs compared with the Far East. One Of this country’s major problems has not been hedge funds investing in China but China investing over here , pushing property prices up. Do a bit of research into the secretive 48 Group.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    No, I was pointing out that a university education is not the be-all and end all, which was also Vincent Blackshadows point, because what he actually said was not that the University Of Life was the only education but that it was the best education because that is how people learn to think. That’s not to sat it shouldn’t be supplemented. You have , yourself, in the past had hard words to say about “ experts “ who may be knowledgeable in their field of expertise but lack common sense. There are plenty of “experts “ whose university education has not taught the basic life skills and basic common sense. That’s not to say they are all like that but VB has a valid point.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    That is so true . People now aged 65 and over left school at a time when the leaving age was 16 and there were far fewer opportunities for further education than there are today yet many did very well in business by learning on the job, or by going to night school. Going back several generations some of the greatest engineers this country has ever produced , men like Brunel were basically self taught. In fact Some like George Stephenson , even had to teach themselves to read and write first.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    The only thing that is clear is that every time you post you shoot yourself in the foot with these stupid one size fits all sweeping generalisations. Some do well Iife, some don’t. It’s usually a combination of hard work combined with a large slice of good fortune and good health. Plenty of pensioners find life very hard and did so long before Brexit.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    In other words the retirees could be bothered to vote but the 18-38’s couldn’t yet the retirees are somehow expected to vote remain to cancel out the fact that the 18-38’s didn’t vote at all . Lol.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    Spot on.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    What constitutes “necessity “ is a matter of opinion. “ Need “ for some people is “ greed “ for others. The best thing you can give a child is your time. Buying children off with money instead of the parents time has produced the materialistic generation we now have. As for it being an affluent area, like most of the South East these days you pay a lot of money for not much. London is the same. However I don’t think the present young generation are necessarily worse of than those previously. If you need a car for work or to take the kids to school it doesn’t have to be a Range Rover or BMW. Plenty of members on this forum manage quite well on second hand Ford Escorts. The point about these sort of expensive cars is that if people can afford them it gives the lie to the idea that all young people have terrible struggles to get anywhere, if they can’t afford them the it’s their own fault I’d they get into debt.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    It’s not dog whistling , which seems to be your current catch phrase in the absence of sensible comment. Terminally idle denotes one extreme just as your concept of well heeled pensioners on final salary schemes denotes the other extreme. If they haven’t paid enough to cover their retirement costs then clearly they are not going to be having this life of luxury that you imagine. However you have not addressed the central point which is how you are going to address the problem of denying benefits to those who have paid in for them but on your estimation don’t need them , unless you have a means test which is politically unacceptable ? The other question is who decides who is entitled to benefits and at what level of income ? It would be totally unacceptable political, and no party has it in their manifesto. All this of course has absolutely no relevance to Brexit, which was what Pieman claimed.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    Plenty of people these days are paper millionaires but they’re still have to live somewhere. People who bought property 40 years ago and spent their whole married lives in them suddenly find the area has changed and the house they struggled to once pay the mortgage in is worth a lot of money. There are loads like that in East and West London. Almost everybody finds themselves relatively better off when they retire because going to work actually cost a lot of money in terms of travel, clothing etc, but it’s not enough for them to live the life of Riley as you and Pieman seem to imagine,
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    It was at the Labour parties insistence that people get a full state pension whether they need it or not. The only way not to do that is to have a means test, which is an anathema to many, and to some extent I see their point of view. I don’t see any difference between pensioners getting state benefits whether they need it or not and people getting child allowance whether they need it or not. I certainly think its ridiculous for people to be getting more and more child allowance just for breeding more and more kids they can’t afford. There is a strong argument against denying people full pension or other benefits when they have worked hard to pay their way in life, while at the same time bailing out the terminally idle. The bottom line is that the state benefits and pensions system is not , and never will be perfect. By its very nature there will always be inconsistencies and waste. If those in work support the system by paying taxes it’s very difficult to deny them the benefits of it.
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    European Union - In Or Out?

    If they are middle class then by definition they are comfortably off but all pensioners are not middle class. You have to ask why they are comfortably off. I have just been to the funeral of someone many people would categorise as comfortably off, but he spent most of his life at least up to his early 50’s doing two jobs, working as a pit deputy on nights and a few hours over whatever was going by day. Only the most insanely jealous would object to someone like that having a comfortable retirement. However , the question was, how many retirees people do you know with three cars? I don’t know of any but I see plenty of people in the 25-35 age group dropping their kids off at school in Range Rovers , people carriers, Beemers , Mercs , and in one case a huge Teslar, so there plenty of young people living a comfortable life style but probably up to their ears in debt, instead of keeping something back for a rainy day
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