f-s-p 832 Posted August 17, 2007 (edited) Extraliiga today at Pori. Keittiöpiste is the likely champion. Only way for them to mess things up is to finish last next sunday. Even that might not be good enough. Keittiöpiste 43 Tero Aarnio 2132 8 Juha Mäkelä 3213 9 Andreas Messing 32322 12 Juha Hautamäki 33332 14 Paholaiset 25 Petri Koskela 01111 4 Marko Suojanen 2 2 Alexander Edberg 2101 4 Jari Mäkinen 036^21d3 15 Kotkat 21+3 Joni Keskinen 11220 6 Mikko Koskinen 10 1 Petteri Koivunen 1000 1 Benny Johansson 230^233d 13+3 Kopparberg 21+2 Jyri Palomäki 32T0^1F 6 Timo Villanen d012 3 Tero Villanen 001 1 Tomi Reima 1223R3 11+2 Erä erältä: 1. Palomäki, Aarnio, Keskinen, Koskela 68,54 2. Mäkelä, Suojanen, Koskinen, Villanen d 69,43 3. Messing, Edberg, Koivunen, Te.Villanen 66,58 4. Hautamäki, Johansson, Reima, Mäkinen 66,84 5. Mäkinen, Messing, Keskinen, Villanen 68,61 6. Mäkinen^, Reima, Aarnio, Koivunen 67,89 7. Johansson, Mäkelä, Edberg, Te.Villanen 66,56 8. Hautamäki, Palomäki, Edberg, Koskinen 67,28 9. Messing, Reima, Koskela, Johansson^ 67,42 10. Reima, Mäkinen, Mäkelä, Koivunen 66,30 11. Hautamäki, Keskinen, Te.Villanen 66,62 12. Aarnio, Johansson, Villanen, Edberg 67,25 13. Mäkelä, Keskinen, Eddberg, Reima 66,32 14. Johansson, Aarnio, Mäkinen, Palomäki^ 65,53 15. Hautamäki, Villanen, Koskela, Koivunen 65,33 16. Johansson, Messing, Palomäki, Mäkinen 66,68 17. Reima, Messing, Koskela, Keskinen 65,37 18. Mäkinen, Hautamäki, Palomäki F, Johansson d 65,58 Uusinta: Johansson, Reima 67,31 I'll get back to you later GW. I'll do a final report of the season in a few weeks. We have Jari Mäkinen. WOW! You should have seen him today! Edited August 18, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 18, 2007 (edited) Two rounds to go. Kuusankoski tomorrow and Lahti a week from now. Keittiöpiste.............7 - 303 - 34 Kopparberg............7 - 247 - 27 Kotkat....................6 - 221 - 25 Paholaiset..............7 - 197 - 23 Jokerit...................7 - 82 - 15 Haukat...................6 - 69 - 15 I havent been praising Mäkinen without proof either. There are only two finnish riders he hasnt won (=beat, trash, make look silly/slow/whatever ) and that Kauko Nieminen and Kaj Laukkanen. He hasn't even raced against Nemo this season. The toughness that I was waiting from him has come, just ask Benny Johansson who had to hit the deck yesterday when Jari pushed him wide in turn 3-4. It wasn't even ugly, there was plenty of space between them but Johansson just didn't want to shut the throttle. Jari's gating can still improve but he outgated the Finnish champ yesterday twice and was even able to hold him back once. He looks good too and never gives up. Jari at Pori: LOOK HERE leading, naturally! Edited August 18, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) Extraliiga today at Kuusankoski Keittiöpiste 46 Tero Aarnio 33333 15 Teemu Lahti 3d2d 5 Juha Mäkelä 3323 11 Juha Hautamäki 33333 15 Kotkat 30 Benny Johansson 23322 12 Mikko Koskinen 00 0 Petteri Koivunen 0212 5 Joni Keskinen 12134^20 13 Paholaiset 25 Petri Koskela R01 1 Alexander Edberg 21200 5 Marko Suojanen 2221 7 Jari Mäkinen 2212^32 12 Haukat 9 Markku Weckman 1001 2 Kalle Kivistö 11001 3 Joni Kitala 1100^11 4 Niko Siltaniemi 0F 0 Erä erältä: 1. Aarnio, Johansson, Weckman, Koskela R 62,6 2. Lahti, Edberg, Kivistö, Koskinen 62,2 3. Mäkelä, Suojanen, Kitala, Koivunen 64,3 4. Hautamäki, Mäkinen, Keskinen, Siltaniemi 61,2* 5. Hautamäki, Koivunen, Kivistö, Koskela 62,1 6. Johansson, Suojanen, Siltaniemi F, Lahti d 63,4 7. Aarnio, Mäkinen, Kitala, Koskinen 62,9 8. Mäkelä, Keskinen, Edberg, Weckman 64,7 9. Aarnio, Edberg, Koivunen 62,4 10. Hautamäki, Suojanen, Keskinen, Weckman 63,2 11. Keskinen, Lahti, Koskela, Kitala 64,5 12. Johansson, Mäkelä, Mäkinen, Kivistö 64,6 13. Mäkelä, Keskinen^, Mäkinen^, Kitala^ 65,0 14. Hautamäki, Johansson, Kitala, Edberg 63,3 15. Aarnio, Keskinen, Suojanen, Kivistö 63,0 16. Mäkinen, Koivunen, Weckman, Lahti d 65,9 17. Aarnio, Johansson, Kivistö, Edberg 63,0 18. Hautamäki, Mäkinen, Kitala, Keskinen 64,4 * = New track record Keittiöpiste is the Finnish Extraliiga Champion of 2007 Keittiöpiste...8 - 349 - 39 Kotkat.........7 - 247 - 29 Kopparberg..7 - 251 - 27 Paholaiset....8 - 222 - 26 Jokerit.........7 - 82 - 15 Haukat.........7 - 78 - 17 Edited August 19, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 20, 2007 Here are the riders for the Finnish Long track final next saturday. This meeting will be sent live on the internet at ww.popula.tv. In no particular order: 3... Mikko Rahko VaMK 13.. Tomi Kauppi PMK 6... Tapio Leppämäki HjMK 44.. Tomi Reima HMK 4... Rene Lehtinen SeMK 10.. Markku weckman SsMK 8... Jan-Eric Korkeamäki KauhjMK 5... Markus Helin FMS 19.. Tommi Ahlgrén FMS 27.. Anssi Lehtinen VRT 11.. Ilmo Suutari HeMK 12.. Raimo Juntunen HeMK 1... Klaus-Peter Gerdeman Saksa 33.. Matthias Kröger Saksa (Finnish Champion 2007?) 2... Janne Koivula PirMM 14.. Jonne Perälä VaMK 28.. Simo Pulli KarMK 55.. Joel Nyström Sweden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 21,013 Posted August 23, 2007 K-P.Gerdeman won't be there f-s-p.The promoters are expecting him to pay for the travel costs out of his own pocket.While Matten will get his costs payed.So he has decided not to go That is what he has posted on inspeed anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 23, 2007 (edited) K-P.Gerdeman won't be there f-s-p.The promoters are expecting him to pay for the travel costs out of his own pocket.While Matten will get his costs payed.So he has decided not to go That is what he has posted on inspeed anyway <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd say plenty but it's wiser to shut up. Thanks for the info. Depending what goggles I'll wear I'll understand each party. EDIT: Just read the topic at inspeed. Talk about stealing news!!! The thing is there is no "promoter". The club at Pori has paid our federation to get the chance to organize the Finnish final. In these kind of meetings starting money is unheard of to the best of my knowledge. Just ask KPG if he got paid by the organizer last year? Or is this just the case of " if he gets, I must get too". BUT, we've had all the best here this season so I think it's nice that Pori tries to add to the pile and trying to get Kröger over here. But like I said above, depending on the goggles... I know the people at Pori personally and have nothing bad to say about them. Edited August 23, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted August 23, 2007 Full programm can be found here: http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t235/pm69/ksiohjelma.jpg @f-s-p, What does this mean ? - Kilpakoneet Kansallinen-Luokka - Urheilukoneet Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 24, 2007 What does this mean ? - Kilpakoneet Kansallinen-Luokka = Sort of B-group for long track bikes. Kansallinen stands for national - Urheilukoneet = MX and Enduro bikes with speedway rear wheel/tire Thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> After an interesting week of weather forecasting, everything looked good yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 25, 2007 (edited) Rene Lehtinen won the Finnish long track championship of 2007 before Mikko Rahko and Markus Helin. Final was from the tapes but distances were in metres, not hundreds of metres. Kröger won all his heats but had to leave to catch the plane to UK for the EC final somewhere so missed the A-final. Mikko Rahko challenged him well in one heat! Lead for 2,5 laps... The meeting dragged a bit, mainly thanks to Anssi Lehtinen who never made it further than the first bend. On his third outing the crash was bad enough for him to be carried out in an ambulance. Matthias Kröger 5555 20 Mikko Rahko 5545 19 Janne Koivula 5345 17 Raimo Juntunen 4553 17 Rene Lehtinen 4454 17 Ilmo Suutari N444 12 Markus Helin 4332 12 Tommi Ahlgren 3432 12 Tapio Leppämäki d324 9 Jan-Eric Korkeamäki 3123 9 Tomi Kauppi 3212 8 Joel Nyström 2131 7 Markku Weckman 2221 7 Simo Pulli 2d13 6 Jonne Perälä 1211 5 Anssi Lehtinen dddN 0 C-finaali: Pulli, Kauppi, Weckman, Nyström, Perälä, Lehtinen N B-finaali: Helin, Suutari, Ahlgren, Korkeamäki, Leppämäki, Pulli A-finaali: Lehtinen, Rahko, Helin, Juntunen, Koivula, Kröger N Did anyone watch it online? Feedback would be appreciated!!! Edited August 28, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 26, 2007 (edited) I spoke with Aarni Heikkilä's parents yesterday and they said Aarni has started healing and will be back next year. Damage to his back wasn't as bad as thought after the crash. It wasn't all good news form this couple, since they said that a week after the Heikkilä incident Janne Nyman crashed at the same track a badly damaged his wrist and hand. Several broke bones and the surgery to make things better wasn't a 100% success. EDIT: Both Nyman and Heikkilä were in the pits yesterday at Lahti. I guess the hits they took werent that hard since they remembered well how they happened. But both are out for the season and will comeback next year. Heikkiläs incident happened in the same meeting where Kylmäkorpi hurt his elbow and Nyman crashed in a practise session. Juha Moksunen was there helping the youngsters and Nyman's father said that the riders were told very clearly what to do and how to ride the track resulting in much faster racing speed as the day went on. Edited August 28, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted August 28, 2007 (edited) Extraliiga yesterday at Lahti Kotkat 36 Joni Keskinen 22332 12 Mikko Koskinen 1122 6 Petteri Koivunen 1311 6 Rene Lehtinen 33321 12 Kopparberg 31 Tomi Reima 33333 15 Jyri Palomäki 33223 13 Timo Villanen 21F 3 Haukat 29 Markku Weckman 011 2 Kalle Kivistö 022F 4 Joni Kitala 31311 9 Niko Siltaniemi 222332 14 Jokerit 9 Jukka Nieminen 1010 2 Jani Eerikäinen 22100 5 Vesa Hyyryläinen 02 2 Erä erältä: 1. Reima, Keskinen, Nieminen, Weckman 64,50 2. Palomäki, Eerikäinen, Koskinen, Kivistö 66,78 3. Kitala, Villanen, Koivunen 68,38 4. Lehtinen, Siltaniemi 66,66 5. Reima, Siltaniemi, Koskinen 65,22 6. Lehtinen, Kivistö, Villanen, Nieminen 67,44 7. Koivunen, Eerikäinen, Weckman 69,69 8. Palomäki, Keskinen, Kitala 67,19 9. Lehtinen, Palomäki, Weckman, Hyyryläinen 66,78 10. Keskinen, Siltaniemi, Eerikäinen, Villanen F 67,19 11. Reima, Kivistö, Koivunen 65,71 12. Kitala, Koskinen, Nieminen 66,18 13. Reima, Lehtinen, Kitala, Eerikäinen 65,44 14. Siltaniemi, Palomäki, KOivunen, Nieminen 67,25 15. Siltaniemi, Koskinen 69,03 16. Keskinen, Hyyryläinen, Kivistö F 65,35 17. Palomäki, Keskinen, Kitala, Eerikäinen 67,12 18. Reima, Siltaniemi, Lehtinen 67,84 Katsojia 125 Final Extraliiga table Team...........M...+......P Keittiöpiste...8...349...39 Kotkat.........8...287...34 Kopparberg..8...278...30 Paholaiset....8...222...26 Haukat........8...107...20 Jokerit.........8...91....16 Keittiöpiste, Kotkat and Kopparberg Extraliiga averages (3 matches to qualify) Rider...................Team..............M....P.....R.....AVG Juha Hautamäki….KEITTIÖPISTE...8...133...47...11,32 Andreas Messing...KEITTIÖPISTE...3...37...15...9,87 Tero Aarnio………KEITTIÖPISTE...7...75...31...9,68 Rene Lehtinen…….KOTKAT...6...67...28...9,57 Tomi Reima……….KOPPARBERG...7...79...37...8,54 Benny Johansson….KOTKAT...6...64...30...8,53 Jyri Palomäki……..KOPPARBERG...7...68...33...8,24 Juha Mäkelä……….KEITTIÖPISTE...6...41...20...8,20 Teemu Lahti……...KEITTIÖPISTE...6...44...22...8,00 Jari Mäkinen……...PAHOLAISET...8...88...48...7,33 Joni Keskinen…….KOTKAT...7...53...34...6,24 Marko Suojanen…..PAHOLAISET...7...34...24...5,67 Kalle Katajisto…...JOKERIT...3...21...16...5,25 Aki-Pekka Mustonen...PAHOLAISET...6...30...23...5,22 Petri Koskela……..PAHOLAISET...8...47...37...5,08 Jani Eerikäinen…...JOKERIT...4...19...16...4,75 Timo Villanen…….KOPPARBERG...4...15...13...4,62 Petteri Koivunen….KOTKAT...4...15...14...4,29 Joni Kitala………...HAUKAT...3...16...15...4,27 Markku Autio……..JOKERIT...6...31...30...4,13 Mikko Rahko……..KOPPARBERG...5...14...14...4,00 Niko Siltaniemi…...HAUKAT...8...37...39...3,79 Mikko Koskinen…..KOTKAT...3...7...8...3,50 Aarni Heikkilä…….HAUKAT...6...21...28...3,00 Kalle Kivistö………HAUKAT...8...16...31...2,06 Janne Nyman……...HAUKAT...5...9...23...1,57 Juho Ruuska……….JOKERIT...6...6...28...0,86 Jan-Eric Korkeamäki...JOKERIT...4...3...17...0,71 Olli Heikkilä………..JOKERIT...3...1...12...0,33 Not qualified Kaj Laukkanen……..KOTKAT...2...27...9...12,00 Kalle Lindgren….….KOTKAT...1...11...4...11,00 Emil Lindqvist……..KOPPARBERG...2...38...14...10,86 Andreas Lekander...KOPPARBERG...2...34...13...10,46 Linus Sundström…..KOPPARBERG...1...13...5...10,40 Kenny Olsson……...KEITTIÖPISTE...1...13...5...10,40 Daniel Davidsson.…KOTKAT...2...24...11...8,73 Robert Eriksson…....KOTKAT...1...14...7...8,00 Thomas Ljung……...KOPPARBERG...1...8...6...5,33 Alexander Edberg.…PAHOLAISET...2...9...9...4,00 Vesa Hyyryläinen…..JOKERIT...1...2...2...4,00 Markku Weckman....HAUKAT...2...4...7...2,29 Jukka Nieminen…….JOKERIT...1...2...4...2,00 Jonny Korpela………JOKERIT...1...1...4...1,00 Tero Villanen…….KOPPARBERG...2...1...5...0,80 Jouni Viljanen…....PAHOLAISET...1...0...2...0,00 Toni Stenberg……..KEITTIÖPISTE...1...0...1...0,00 Jonne Perälä………..JOKERIT...1...0...4...0,00 Edited August 28, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted September 6, 2007 (edited) Last regular season Kaupunki Cup match was staged last saturday at Pori. Pori 49 Marko Suojanen 23322 12 Markku Autio d 0 Appe Mustonen 12131 8 Tomi Kauppi 001 1 Jari Mäkinen 23333 14 Alexander Edberg 1303dr3 10 Jouni Viljanen d0121 4 Seinäjoki 41 Juha Mäkelä 3110 5 Petteri Koivunen 03R 3 Niko Siltaniemi 2122 7 Dennis Dahlborg 321220 10 Joni Keskinen 32213 11 Jere Mattila 1000 1 Toni Stenberg 2110 4 Erä erältä: 1. Mäkelä, Suojanen, Edberg, Koivunen 68,62 2. Edberg, Stenberg, Mattila, Viljanen d 69,69 3. Dahlborg, Siltaniemi, Mustonen, Kauppi 69,28 4. Keskinen, Mäkinen, Stenberg, Viljanen 67,28 5. Koivunen, Mustonen, Mäkelä, Kauppi 68,60 6. Suojanen, Keskinen, Viljanen, Mattila 66,59 7. Mäkinen, Dahlborg, Siltaniemi, Edberg 66,28 8. Edberg, Viljanen, Stenberg, Koivunen R 67,58 9. Mäkinen, Keskinen, Mustonen, Mattila 67,53 10. Suojanen, Siltaniemi, Dahlboerg, Edberg d 66,53 11. Mäkinen, Dahlborg, Mäkelä, Edberg R 66,44 12. Mustonen, Siltaniemi, Viljanen, Mattila 68,16 13. Mäkinen, Suojanen, Keskinen, Mäkelä 66,03 14. Edberg, Dahlborg, Kauppi, Stenberg 68,31 15. Keskinen, Suojanen, Mustonen, Dahlborg 65,68 The KC final at Haapajärvi was a rainoff and will be restaged on the 16th of this month. Pori won the KC regular season with Seinäjoki 2nd and Kauhajoki 3rd and both riding in the final since Pori decided that they wont bother because of how the Haapajärvi meeting was organized without consulting them. Jarkko Palmi won the finnish 80 cc Championship after beating Timo Lahti in the final of the last round. They were tied in Cup points before the last round at Pori last weekend. I'll post full results later. I've only seen a few heats of this years 80 cc racing. But I think Timo Lahti looks great and his transission to the bigger bikes will go well. He has this style riding the smaller bike from the saddle, something I havent seen anyone else having? And he's practised the whole of this season on a 500 cc machine. Palmi has a very different style, dont know how he will develope in the bigger bikes. He has one already but I dont know how much he's ridden on it. His 80 cc bikes this year were really good. I think he had two new bikes for the season, atleast they looked new. He put many Finnish riders in to shame with his bike's. Jari Mäkinen and Joni Keskinen will ride at Tarnow in a some sort of a "come-and-show-us-what-your-made-of" meeting this saturday. Edited September 7, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted September 6, 2007 (edited) 80 cc Stats from this season. 80 cc Suomen Cup loppupisteet 6/6 Jarkko Palmi.........16....(-)....20....25....25....25....111 Timo Lahti.............20....25....25....(-)....16....20....106 Vili Hautala..............13....10....(9)....16....20....16....75 Tomi Lahti...............(11)....16....16....13....13....13....71 Jiri Nieminen.............-....-....13....20....11....11....55 Vikke Kuhanen........(6)....13....10....11....10....9....53 Mika Loppi..............25....20....-....-....-....-....45 Vili Mattila................7....-....11....10....7....10....45 Eetu Neuvonen.........9....9....8....9....6....-....41 Toni Hemmila.............8....11....-....-....8....-....27 Miikka Hyyryläinen...10....-....-....-....-....8....18 Jari Tapani................-....-....-....-....9....-....9 Rider.....................M....P....H....P/H Jarkko Palmi.........5....69....25....2,76 Mika Loppi.............2....27....10....2,70 Timo Lahti.............5....67....25....2,68 Tomi Lahti..............6....58....29....2,00 Jiri Nieminen...........5....39....22....1,77 Vili Hautala.............6....48....28....1,71 Vikke Kuhanen.......6....36....25....1,44 Vili Mattila..............4....23....16....1,44 Toni Hemmilä..........2....16....12....1,33 Eetu Neuvonen.......5....24....18....1,33 Miikka Hyyryläinen..2....10....8....1,25 Jari Tapani.............1....4....4....1,00 This isn't shown anywhere else. Or put in better words, this info is not online anywhere else. Edited September 6, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anders 0 Posted September 6, 2007 80 cc Stats from this season. 80 cc Suomen Cup loppupisteet 6/6 Jarkko Palmi.........16....(-)....20....25....25....25....111 Mika Loppi..............25....20....-....-....-....-....45 Miikka Hyyryläinen...10....-....-....-....-....8....18 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Many new names there but I have heard of Jarkko Palmi. He has ridden a couple of meetings in the Swedish league for Team Dalakraft. Mika Loppi rode for the Finnish national team last year if my memory serves me, but he has only ridden two meetings this year, has he been injured or quit? (Sorry if this has been mentioned before) And one final question; Miikka Hyyryläinen...some years ago it was a 500cc rider Hyyryläinen (Marko?), any relations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted September 7, 2007 (edited) Many new names there but I have heard of Jarkko Palmi. He has ridden a couple of meetings in the Swedish league for Team Dalakraft. Mika Loppi rode for the Finnish national team last year if my memory serves me, but he has only ridden two meetings this year, has he been injured or quit? (Sorry if this has been mentioned before) And one final question; Miikka Hyyryläinen...some years ago it was a 500cc rider Hyyryläinen (Marko?), any relations? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I believe Mika Loppi broke his hand when he crashed in a practise session early June? Miikka and Marko -> No relation apparently, EDITED info! Edited September 7, 2007 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
