Guest Jim Blanchard Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) Received my copy of the Vintage speedway mag this morning. They reproduce an interview with George Hunter that he gave in 1998. Now, a voice from the grave says “Belle Vue gave us 10 yard start that night because it was a challenge match. It was a tragedy because Peter Craven was a brilliant rider and I remember seeing him win his first world final on black and white television”. Where did the 10 yard start come from? No one has mentioned that at all to my knowledge in the past. Edited May 25, 2007 by Jim Blanchard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Steve Dixon Posted May 24, 2007 I find this really odd, Iv'e read lots of stuff about this fateful night, some say there was a handicap on the Aces riders and some say otherwise. One in particular(cannot remember what) said the only race handicapped was the race itself. Surely someone was there who reads this forum?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topcat 58 Posted May 24, 2007 I find this really odd, Iv'e read lots of stuff about this fateful night, some say there was a handicap on the Aces riders and some say otherwise. One in particular(cannot remember what) said the only race handicapped was the race itself. Surely someone was there who reads this forum?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wasn't there, but i do have a filled in programme, and there is no indication from the handwriting of any handicap being used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Topcat 58 Posted May 24, 2007 (edited) I find this really odd, Iv'e read lots of stuff about this fateful night, some say there was a handicap on the Aces riders and some say otherwise. One in particular(cannot remember what) said the only race handicapped was the race itself. Surely someone was there who reads this forum?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Edited May 24, 2007 by Topcat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star ghost 7 Posted May 25, 2007 I wasn't there but have read many reports, have the marked programme and this thing about a handicap doesn't ring true. I think George made a dream gate, these things happen, whilst Peter missed out for once. This was the way I feel it happened. The mere fact that people talk about 10 or 20 yards as the distance concerned sows seeds of doubt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dode1 1 Posted May 28, 2007 Hi Jim, we have spoken about this in the past on your old web site, i was there that night on the bend etc. I did say peter was on a handicap Mr hoskins asked him if he would go of it, as the people wanted to see how it was done, and he agreed to do it, you dissagreed and dismissed my account of the race. As i said to you then i will never forget, what i witnessed and heard that sad evening. If you go onto scran.co.uk put speedway in the search, look through the pics, you will see 1 of the last pics taken of peter with Ian Hoskins and the boxer Walter McGowan in the pits at old meadowbank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Hamilton 1 Posted June 6, 2007 I wasn't there but have read many reports, have the marked programme and this thing about a handicap doesn't ring true. I think George made a dream gate, these things happen, whilst Peter missed out for once. This was the way I feel it happened. The mere fact that people talk about 10 or 20 yards as the distance concerned sows seeds of doubt <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Star Ghost, The handicapping system was brought in to address the imbalance of standards in the League if I remmebre correctly. There were 5 riders who were head and shoulders above everyone else: Ove Fundin, Peter Crave, Ronnie Moore, Barry Briggs and Bjorn Knutsson and weer allocated 20 yard handicaps. The next grade were the run of the mill heat leaders and 2nd strings who were to start on 10 yards. The reserves were on scratch. Regards Brian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,116 Posted June 6, 2007 As a Norwich supporter of the time I am sure star ghost knows this only too well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deano 1,318 Posted June 6, 2007 How old would have Peter Craven been now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
star ghost 7 Posted June 6, 2007 Yes Brian you are right about the handicap system To this must be added A reserve (Number 7) with an average of less than 1.00 per race was given an extra 10 yards start over every other rider. This average was for home matches for the rider to get the start at home. Away reserves had to have an average of less than 1.00 per race away to get this start at away matches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites