Anders 0 Posted September 27, 2007 Sorry for a late answer, haven't spent much time in front of the computer the last three days. My question is could it have been done and they could have raced in fair conditions? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not an expert, but we did have both machines and new shale to put on the track. Would it have been more dangerous than under normal track conditions? Well, yes, that's why the meeting was abandoned by the referee after discussion (sp?) with the team managers. Have I seen meetings been ridden in worse condition? Yes, many times in the GP's (Målilla last year for starters). I talked with the track staff today and they said it would have been really patchy, and they know best I'm sure. Or was it tactics on the highest level by Wirebrand and team? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, I can't believe those conspiracy teories. The financial losses to cancel a meeting is high, it would be suiside to cancel/postpone a meeting just for the sake of it. (I know you mean it just as a "teaser") Anyway beat Västervik and send them home shattered! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wish. Västervik was the far better team in the semifinals and won comfortably against us, our tail was too long to stand a chance. Can't believe I'm saying this, but GO DACKARNA in the finals! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarabanko 5 Posted September 27, 2007 Yep GO Dackarna! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnset 0 Posted September 28, 2007 Can i ask how you race the final in Sweden? is it the same as here once at home for both teams? And when is the final(s) ? thanx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetters 0 Posted September 28, 2007 Can i ask how you race the final in Sweden? is it the same as here once at home for both teams? And when is the final(s) ? thanx <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Same as You! The Finals in next week tuesday at Malilla home of the Dackarna and wednesday at Vastervik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,864 Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) And when is the final(s) ? thanx <{POST_SNAPBACK}> have you missed the dates in the first post on the first page? there is all dates and links you'll need! and about reserves. reserves can only be used in 6 heats. The 2007 Swedish Champions will be Västervik i think. Simply because they have Chris harris as a reserve. Personally i dont like that teams can have a top 8 GP rider/ GP winner as a reserve. Edited September 28, 2007 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARK246 243 Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) The 2007 Swedish Champions will be Västervik i think. Simply because they have Chris harris as a reserve. Personally i dont like that teams can have a top 8 GP rider/ GP winner as a reserve. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know the points still count, but all the riders he beat in his last meeting were reserves. So he's just the top scoring reserve. Edited September 28, 2007 by MARK246 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marron 7 Posted October 1, 2007 Any team news for either meeting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarabanko 5 Posted October 1, 2007 Teams on tuesday: Dackarna: 1) Hans Andersen 2) Peter Karlsson 3) Fredrik Lindgren 4) Lukas Dryml 5) Andreas Jonsson, 6) Sebastian Aldén 7) Robin Törnqvist 8) Joakim Engstrand Västervik: 1) Bjarne Pedersen 2) Sebastian Ulamek 3) Tomasz Chrzanowski 4) Niels Kristian Iversen 5) Tomasz Gollob 6) Billy Forsberg 7) Chris Harris 8) Viktor Bergström Teams on wednesday: Västervik: 1) Bjarne Pedersen 2) Sebastian Ulamek 3) Tomasz Chrzanowski 4) Niels Kristian Iversen 5) Tomasz Gollob 6) Chris Harris 7) Billy Forsberg 8) Viktor Bergström Dackarna: 1) Fredrik Lindgren 2) Lukas Dryml 3) Hans Andersen 4) Peter Karlsson 5) Andreas Jonsson 6) Sebastian Aldén 7) Robin Törnqvist 8) Joakim Engstrand A crowd of over 8.000 is expected in Målilla and in Västervik it will be a packed house between 5.000 - 8.000. Hopefully the record of 12.000 peoples in the swedish elitserien can be broken on tuesday in Målilla. The meetings can be followed here: http://www.speedway.nu/2007/res2007b.asp?ElitF / Mikael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Schumi Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) Malilla versus Vastervik - 02-10-07 Mallila..53 1..H Andersen..1',3,2,0,3 = 9+1 2..P Karlsson..2,3,2',2',2' = 11+3 3..F Lindgren..3,3,2,3,1' = 12+1 4..L Dryml..0,1,1',3 = 5+1 5..A Jonsson....3,3,2',2,2 = 12+1 6..S Alden..2,0,0,0,0,2 = 4 7..R Tornqvist..0,X,0 = 0 8..J Engstrand = DNR Vastervik..43 1..B Pedersen..3,2,2,1,3,0 = 11 2..S Ulamek..0,0 = 0 3..T Chrzanowski..2,1,0,1 = 4 4..N-K Iversen..1',2,0,0,0 = 3+1 5..T Gollob..2,0,3,1,3 = 9 6..B Forsberg..1,1',1,1 = 4+1 7..C Harris..3,1',1',3,3,1 = 12+2 8..V Bergstrom = DNR Ht 1..56.3..Pedersen, Karlsson, Andersen, Ulamek 3-3 (3-3) Ht 2..56.6..Harris, Alden, Forsberg, Tornqvist [E/F] 2-4 (5-7) Ht 3..57.2..Lindgren, Chrzanowski, Iversen, Dryml 3-3 (8-10) Ht 4..57.3..Jonsson, Gollob, Harris, Alden [Ex] 3-3 (11-13) Ht 5..57.6..Karlsson, Iversen, Harris, Alden 3-3 (14-16) Ht 6..57.5..Lindgren, Pedersen, Dryml, Ulamek 4-2 (18-18) Ht 7..58.1..Andersen, Karlsson, Chrzanowski, Iversen 5-1 (23-19) Ht 8..56.7..Harris, Lindgren, Dryml, Gollob [E/F] 3-3 (26-22) Ht 9..57.5..Jonsson, Pedersen, Forsberg, Alden [Fall] 3-3 (29-25) Ht 10..57.6..Gollob, Andersen, Forsberg, [Tornqvist Ex/2] Alden 2-4 (31-29) Ht 11..57.0..Harris, Alden, Forsberg, Tornqvist 2-4 (33-33) Ht 12..57.7..Dryml, Jonsson, Harris, Chrzanowski 5-1 (38-34) Ht 13..58.0..Lindgren, Karlsson, Pedersen, Iversen 5-1 (43-35) Ht 14..58.3..Pedersen, Jonsson, Gollob, Andersen 2-4 (45-39) Ht 15..--.-..Andersen, Karlsson, Chrzanowski, Iversen [Fall] 5-1 (50-40) Ht 16..57.8..Gollob, Jonsson, Lindgren, Pedersen [E/F] 3-3 (53-43) Notes: 1..Ht 4 and Malilla's Alden gets into mischief and is excluded. 2..Ht 5 and Alden replaces Tornqvist for Malilla. 3..Ht 5 and Harris replaces Forsberg for Vastervik. 4..Ht 9 and Forsberg replaces Ulamek for Vastervik. 5..Ht 10 and Malilla's Tornqvist fails to beat the 2 minutes, is excluded and replaced by Alden. 6..Ht 12 and Harris replaces Ulamek for Vastervik. 7..Ht 14 and Pedersen replaces Chrzanowski in a tactical move by Vastervik. 8..Ht 15 and it's Andersen-Karlsson for Malilla and it's Chrzanowski-Iversen for Vastervik. 9..Ht 16 and it's Lindgren-Jonsson for Malilla and it's Pedersen-Gollob for Vastervik. All details from: http://www.speedway.nu Edited October 2, 2007 by Schumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superguest 194 Posted October 2, 2007 The result was 53-43. Great effort from PK, rolling back the years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 870 Posted October 2, 2007 2..S Ulamek..0,0 = 0 3..T Chrzanowski..2,1,0,1 = 4 7..C Harris..3,1',1',3,3,1 = 12+2 Looks like they're continuing their form of Monday. A smidgen of cromfort to Swindon fans, Ulamek & Chrzanowski weren't disinterested last night just rubbish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superguest 194 Posted October 2, 2007 Looks like they're continuing their form of Monday. A smidgen of cromfort to Swindon fans, Ulamek & Chrzanowski weren't disinterested last night just rubbish. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ah but atleast they turned up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,864 Posted October 2, 2007 (edited) Dackarna is 10 points ahead and Västervik will have to be really good tomorrow if they are going to win the title especially since Dackarna can use tactical substitute when VV is 6p ahead in tomorrows meeting despite being 4ps after Dackarna totally. It could very well develop to a last heat decider. Edited October 2, 2007 by Ghostwalker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anders 0 Posted October 3, 2007 Dackarna is 10 points ahead and Västervik will have to be really good tomorrow if they are going to win the title especially since Dackarna can use tactical substitute when VV is 6p ahead in tomorrows meeting despite being 4ps after Dackarna totally. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agree, Västervik will need a superb performence to climb back from this hole. Dackarna seems, in contrary to previous seasons, to have kept the form entering the Play Off and with the possibility of tactical substitutions, I hold them as favourites to win it on aggregate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy 0 Posted October 3, 2007 should be helluva meeting...i know it won't be televised but maybe it'll be recorded and sold..any chance?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites