Derwent 271 Posted July 15, 2008 Time to bring in the dream team of Ian Thomas & Carl Stonehewer to manage GB. IT can cheat us to victory and if not then at least Stoney will make sure everyone has fun trying ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
invadersfan 0 Posted July 15, 2008 The manager must take some of the blame. Part of the job is motivation, and unless he was trying to do a Brian Clough, the negative comments comming from him before the meeting weren't good. Ok the riders didn't perform, but what was the logic in using the joker with Scott in heat six when Scott had not performed in his first ride, and was on gate 4. That was not clever. The Scott comes on TV and says he had bike troubles early on and changed bikes. I think the managers comments before the meeting was as shocking as the performance from the team. British speedway is looking bleak due to the amount of swedes,poles,danes,ect in this country racing, look at coventry 2 reserves both foreign and both struggling to score points, surely there is a young British kid they could use that could score a few points a match and progress. Limit teams to 2 overseas riders in the premier league and and 3 in the elite league and maybe we will oneday be good again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnPhelan 1 Posted July 15, 2008 So why did Lynch say anything about about who would ride at Vojens? Why did he say we can't win the Coventry meeting? In my opinion the BSPA have gone for the cheap option and gone for some bloke who once threw some money at promoting. No we needed an ex rider who could motivate the riders not this pillock True Nicholls Stead and Harris were complete rubbish and only Allen and Richardson seemed to give an honest performance Why shouldn't he declare his Vojens team ahead of the event? He was realistic enough to know that Team GB were highly likely to get to the race-off, mainly because the Danes were never going to lose. If you follow this "demotivation" argument, it could be concluded that Woffinden and Kennett will have their heads down at Vojens because they weren't selected for Brandon! Like I said, complete tosh. Nothing short of divine intervention could make this GB team win the World Cup in this format. None of them are good enough to consistently compete with and beat the other top riders on the world stage. Half the problem is that Chris Harris gave the Brits a very rare chance to cheer in Cardiff last year, and we expect him to consistently do the same. I'm a big Bomber fan, but he's not a consistently good enough rider to give the big names something to really worry about every time they meet him on track. It doesn't matter who is the Manager. When you have the huge gap in ability that exists between Team GB and the Aussies or the Danes, no Manager can make up for that with motivational talk. In this format, the Brits are always going to finish 4th or 5th in this competition. In a couple of years time, it may be very different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Mc Cracken 0 Posted July 15, 2008 It doesn't matter who is the Manager. When you have the huge gap in ability that exists between Team GB and the Aussies or the Danes, no Manager can make up for that with motivational talk. In this format, the Brits are always going to finish 4th or 5th in this competition. Totally Agree .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatcham 1 Posted July 15, 2008 Why shouldn't he declare his Vojens team ahead of the event? He was realistic enough to know that Team GB were highly likely to get to the race-off, mainly because the Danes were never going to lose. If you follow this "demotivation" argument, it could be concluded that Woffinden and Kennett will have their heads down at Vojens because they weren't selected for Brandon! Like I said, complete tosh. Nothing short of divine intervention could make this GB team win the World Cup in this format. None of them are good enough to consistently compete with and beat the other top riders on the world stage. Half the problem is that Chris Harris gave the Brits a very rare chance to cheer in Cardiff last year, and we expect him to consistently do the same. I'm a big Bomber fan, but he's not a consistently good enough rider to give the big names something to really worry about every time they meet him on track. It doesn't matter who is the Manager. When you have the huge gap in ability that exists between Team GB and the Aussies or the Danes, no Manager can make up for that with motivational talk. In this format, the Brits are always going to finish 4th or 5th in this competition. In a couple of years time, it may be very different. yes,by then the russians will be much better than us as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Southend Sid 5 Posted July 15, 2008 Lynch can't be blamed, it was just an awful performance by the riders. Cue usual bullsht excuses.. Track was slick, couldnt get the set up right, weather was bad, it was time of the month, it was my dog's cousins birthday.. did he have a good birthday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MARK246 243 Posted July 15, 2008 I think the managers comments before the meeting was as shocking as the performance from the team. British speedway is looking bleak due to the amount of swedes,poles,danes,ect in this country racing, look at coventry 2 reserves both foreign and both struggling to score points, surely there is a young British kid they could use that could score a few points a match and progress. Limit teams to 2 overseas riders in the premier league and and 3 in the elite league and maybe we will oneday be good again. Why not reduce the pay scales, to an economically viable level to the clubs and less appealing to the foriegn riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnPhelan 1 Posted July 15, 2008 Why not reduce the pay scales, to an economically viable level to the clubs and less appealing to the foriegn riders. Why not get rid of the meaningless Craven Shield, Young Shield, Super Seven series etc. and get some good, old-fashioned open meetings and test match series organised, making sure the younger, up-and-coming British riders are exposed to riding against the very best much more often? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hatcham 1 Posted July 15, 2008 Why not get rid of the meaningless Craven Shield, Young Shield, Super Seven series etc. and get some good, old-fashioned open meetings and test match series organised, making sure the younger, up-and-coming British riders are exposed to riding against the very best much more often? totally agree.been saying the same myself for years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJC71 388 Posted July 15, 2008 As others have said, it doesn't really matter who the manager is. The riders are quite simply not good enough to compete at this level. All the talk about track conditions is drivel really. Do people not think the Danes and Swedes would have been able to cope with a grippy track? Top riders can ride any type of track. The likes of Scott, Bomber and Lee Richardson might have good averages in England, but that's in a poor standard Elite League. In Poland and Sweden they are no more than second-string riders which is a fair reflection of their standing on the Interantional stage. Likewise Stead and Allen would be reserves in the Swedish and Polish leagues. That's not being disrespectful it's just a fact. Tai Woffinden is the only rider who looks capable of being a real top rider but lets be honest, he's really an Aussie. There are some very promissing young Brits like Jerran Hart, Andrew Tully and others so there is hope but the likes of David Howe and Lee Richardson were top juniors who have not really cut it. Certainly agree that the competition for the good youngsters isn't strong enough. There are also far too many sub-standard foreign riders riding at all levels of British racing and far too few young Brits competing in the Elite League. The situation wont improve until the BSPA do something about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites