MisiekRacing 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Sanok quali, day 1 LIVE - http://www.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel/2009/01/...-zywo-z-sanoka/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers 67 Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Disappointed in you mate.Where are the results from Russia????I was waiting for you to put them on here as i didn't have much time yesterday.Or should i say i couldn't be bothered Had a busy day myself and only cut and pasted the results from the other meetings. Completely forgot about the Team Championship. Russian Super League Round 3 24.1.09 Ufa 25 Nikolai Krasnikov 18, Dmitri Bulankin 7, Sergei Baltachev DNS Togliatti 24 +3 Ivan Ivanov 9, Dmitri Khomitsevich 8, Vitalli Khmoitsevich 7+3 Lukovitsy 24 +2 Sergei Makharov 13, Ilya Drozdov 11+2 Sterliamak 17 Igor Kononov 12, Vladimir Chapello 5,Sergei Zazakov 0 Kamensk-Ural 13 Eduard Krysov 7, Danil Goloshekin 6, Dmitri Tikhonov 0 Novosibirsk 12 Maxim Korchemakha 11, Andrei Zhdanov 1 Saransk 11 Andrei Gavrilkin 6,Maxim Zakharov 5, Maxim Lushnikov DNS Krasnikov giving plenty of warning that he intends to retain his World Championship, whilst a big slip for the Saransk team. League Table: Bashkortostan Ufa 24 Mega-Lada Togliatti 18 Lukhovitsy 11.5 Mordovia Saransk 11 Kaustic Sterlitamak 10 Kamensk-Ural 6.5 Siberia Novosibirsk 6 Round 4 25.1.2009 Ufa 27 Nikolai Krasnikov 16, Dmitri Bulankin 9, Sergei Baltachev 2) Togliatti 26 Dmitri Khomitsevich 15, Vitalli Khomitsevich 11, Ivan Ivanov 0 Kamensk Ural 17 Danil Golosheykin 9, Eduard Krysov 8, Dmitri Tikhonov DNR Saransk 16 +3 Maxim Zakharov 10, Andrei Gavrilkin 6, Maxim Lushnikov DNR Lukhovitsy 16+2 Sergei Makharov 9, Ilya Drozdov 7 Novosibirsk 12 Maxim Korchemakha 9, Andrei Zhdanov 3, Alexander Kochetov DNR Sterlitamak 11 Igor Kononov 11, Vladimir Chapalo 0, Sergei Zazakov 0 League Table: Bashkortostan (Ufa) 32 Mega-Lada Togliatti 24 Mordovia Saransk 15 Lukhovitsy 14,5 Kamensk- Ural 11,5 Kaustic Sterlitamak 11 Siberia Novosibirsk 8. Have a look at this Crash sequence too: ON THIS LINK Edited January 25, 2009 by Conkers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedwaystar84 0 Posted January 25, 2009 Thanks for everyone insights into the british ice racing team . I did hear that their was a lot of fighting amongst themselves but I will leave it there good luck to all british riders in the meetings they race in this year and I hope you can find some sponsors soon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted January 25, 2009 The Finns seem to really be in the thick of things at Sanok! Sanok updates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,997 Posted January 25, 2009 Posa continues to amaze.I thought he might struggle this time,but he is right up there again with the Russians Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers 67 Posted January 25, 2009 World Championship QR Sanok, Day 1 Finishing Order 1. Yunir Baseev (Rus) - (3,3,3,2,3) 14 2. Per Olof Serenius (S) - (3,3,2,3,3) 14 3. Antonin Klatovsky (CzR) - (1,2,3,3,3) 12 4. Paveł Tschajka (Rus) - (1,3,3,3,2) 12 5. Per Anders Lindstrom (S) - (2,2,2,3,2) 11 6. Johnny Tuinstra (NL) - (2,1,2,2,3) 10 7. Kai Lehtinen (SF) - (w,2,3,2,1) 8 8. Jouni Seppanen (SF) - (1,3,1,1,0) 6 9. Martin Leitner (A) - (3,1,1,d,1) 6 10. Henri Malinen (SF) - (2,1,1,0,2) 6 11. Mario Schwaiger (A) - (3,0,1,0,1) 5 12. Stefan Pletschacher (D) - (0,w,2,1,2) 5 13. Jan Pecina (CzR) - (0,2,0,2,0) 4 14. Oleg Dosaev (Ukr) - (2,w,d,1,0) 3 15. Michał Widera (Pl) - (1,1,0,1,d) 3 16. Zdzisław Żerdziński (Pl) - (0,0,0,0,w) 0 17. Mirosław Daniszewski (Pl) - NS Heats 1. Serenius, Tuinstra, Tschajka, Pecina 2. Schwaiger, Dosaev, Widera, Lehtinen (u/w) 3. Baseev, Lindstrom, Klatovsky, Pletschacher 4. Leitner, Malinen, Seppanen, Żerdziński 5. Seppanen, Pecina, Widera, Pletschacher (u/w) 6. Baseev, Lehtinen, Tuinstra, Żerdziński 7. Tschajka, Lindstrom, Malinen, Dosaev (u/w) 8. Serenius, Klatovsky, Leitner, Schwaiger 9. Lehtinen, Lindstrom, Leitner, Pecina 10. Klatovsky, Tuinstra, Malinen, Widera 11. Tschajka, Pletschacher, Schwaiger, Żerdziński 12. Baseev, Serenius, Seppanen, Dosaev 13. Klatovsky, Pecina, Dosaev, Żerdziński 14. Lindstrom, Tuinstra, Seppanen, Schwaiger 15. Tschajka, Baseev, Widera, Leitner 16. Serenius, Lehtinen, Pletschacher, Malinen 17. Baseev, Malinen, Schwaiger, Pecina 18. Tuinstra, Pletschacher, Leitner, Dosaev 19. Klatovsky, Tschajka, Lehtinen, Seppanen 20. Serenius, Lindstrom, Widera , Żerdziński Results from http://live.sportowefakty.pl/zuzel2.htm Got to give it to Posa - 61 in March and still mixing it! I do think whoever is nominated by the Poles as their "Seeded" rider is really going to struggle though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted January 25, 2009 Good score from Johnny Tuinstra . Any info about the Polish nomination? Is it possible that the Polish Federation select Grzegorz Knapp (if he's fit) for the GP's? As he's quite the best Pole, might be able to score a few points, the others will realy struggle I guess . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted January 26, 2009 Good score from Johnny Tuinstra . Any info about the Polish nomination? Is it possible that the Polish Federation select Grzegorz Knapp (if he's fit) for the GP's? As he's quite the best Pole, might be able to score a few points, the others will realy struggle I guess . From where is this nomination info originating? I went through my FIM emails and riders allocation sheets and found nothing! There were 5+1 going through from the other two and Sanok should see 6 get a place in the GP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers 67 Posted January 26, 2009 From where is this nomination info originating? I went through my FIM emails and riders allocation sheets and found nothing! There were 5+1 going through from the other two and Sanok should see 6 get a place in the GP. Christian Weber wrote in Speedway Star on 17.1.09, "Only the top four from this [saalfelden] meeting are certain of a place in the finals, while the fifth has to wait until all three qualifiers are completed to learn if a rider from each of the nations that host either a qualifier or a final round, has made it through. If not, the fifth placed rider will lose his qualifying spot in favour of a seeded rider from the host nations." I'm sure I read somewhere that this would happen when the fixtures were finally confirmed. So if this is correct, Poland will get a slot in the Finals, as will the Netherlands if neither country has a rider in the top 5/6. If you remember, they did it last year with Johnny Tuinstra when the KNMV had no representative, so they have set a precedent and the PZM could argue that they staged a QR, so they get a seeded rider. But can they give it to Knapp if he hasn't ridden in a qualifying round? Otherwise they'll have a rider who is half a lap behind the rest whenever he races, as their choice may not be as experienced as Knapp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacqueline 19 Posted January 26, 2009 @f-s-p If you look on the FIM rules for Iceracing you can find the following information: "...Each FMNR of an Ice Racing World Championship meeting (Qualifying Rounds, and Finals) is guaranteed at least one rider from its Federation in this meeting and in all Finals. ...." So also Poland will have a guarenteed place. @Ian There is no extra rule that the Federation only could seed a rider, who has taken part at the QR rounds, so I think they could seed any rider they want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f-s-p 832 Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) @f-s-p If you look on the FIM rules for Iceracing you can find the following information: "...Each FMNR of an Ice Racing World Championship meeting (Qualifying Rounds, and Finals) is guaranteed at least one rider from its Federation in this meeting and in all Finals. ...." OK, thanks. EDIT: I'm told Poland wont use their slot since Knapp is injured but there's still the NL slot to be seen during tonight. They've just started so a couple of hours still to go for us to know. Edited January 26, 2009 by f-s-p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted January 26, 2009 Looks like Johnny Tuinstra will reach the GP's on his own "powers" Go Johnny!! . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers 67 Posted January 26, 2009 World Championship QR Day 2, Sanok 26.1.2009 Scores (Day 1 + 2) 1. Yunir Baseev (Rus) - (3,3,3,2,3) 14 + (3,3,3,3,3) 15 = 29 2. Paveł Tschajka (Rus) - (1,3,3,3,2) 12 + (2,3,3,3,3) 14 = 26 3. Per Olof Serenius (S) - (3,3,2,3,3) 14 + (3,2,3,1,2) 11 = 25 4. Antonin Klatovsky (CzR) - (1,2,3,3,3) 12 + (2,3,2,2,2) 11 = 23 5. Johnny Tuinstra (NL) - (2,1,2,2,3) 10 + (3,3,1,3,2) 12 = 22 6. Kai Lehtinen (SF) - (w,2,3,2,1) 8 + (1,2,2,3,3) 11 = 19 +3 7. Per Anders Lindstrom (S) - (2,2,2,3,2) 11 + (3,2,d, 2,1) 8 = 19 +2 8. Stefan Pletschacher (D) - (0,w,2,1,2) 5 + (2,1,0,2,3) 8 = 13 9. Martin Leitner (A) - (3,1,1,d,1) 6 + (1,1,2,2,1) 7 = 13 10. Mario Schwaiger (A) - (3,0,1,0,1) 5 + (0,2,2,0,2) 6 = 11 11. Henri Malinen (SF) - (2,1,1,0,2) 6 + (0,0,3,1,1) 5 = 11 12. Jouni Seppanen (SF) - (1,3,1,1,0) 6 + (2,1,1,1,w) 5 = 11 13. Jan Pecina (CzR) - (0,2,0,2,0) 4 + (1,1,1,0,1) 4 = 8 14. Michał Widera (Pl) - (1,1,0,1,d) 3 + (1,0,0,0,0) 1 = 4 15. Oleg Dosaev (Ukr) - (2,w,d,1,0) 3 + NS = 3 16. Mirosław Daniszewski (Pl) - NS + (0,0,1,1,0) 2 = 2 17. Zdzisław Żerdziński (Pl) - (0,0,0,0,w) 0 + NS = 0 Heats (2nd Day) 21. Baseev, Tschajka, Lehtinen, Schwaiger 22. Serenius, Klatovsky, Leitner, Malinen 23. Tuinstra, Seppanen, Pecina, Daniszewski 24. Lindstrom, Pletschacher, Widera 25. Tschajka, Serenius, Pletschacher, Daniszewski 26. Tuinstra, Lehtinen, Leitner 27. Klatovsky, Schwaiger, Pecina, Widera 28. Baseev, Lindstrom, Seppanen, Malinen 29. Tschajka, Leitner, Pecina, Lindstrom 30. Serenius, Lehtinen, Seppanen, Widera 31. Malinen, Schwaiger, Daniszewski 32. Baseev, Klatovsky, Tuinstra, Pletschacher 33. Tschajka, Klatovsky, Seppanen 34. Lehtinen, Pletschacher, Malinen, Pecina 35. Tuinstra, Lindstrom, Serenius, Schwaiger 36. Baseev, Leitner, Daniszewski, Widera 37. Baseev, Serenius, Pecina 38. Lehtinen, Klatovsky, Lindstrom, Daniszewski 39. Pletschacher, Schwaiger, Leitner, Seppanen (u/w) 40. Tschajka, Tuinstra, Malinen, Widera Run Off for 6th Place 41. Lehtinen, Lindstrom Looks Johnny T made it by sheer guts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGrasstrack 804 Posted January 26, 2009 I think the Poles gave the seeded place back as they've just runned a run-off for the 6th place . RESULTS: 1. Junir Bazeev RUS 14 + (3 3 3 3 3) 29 2. Pavel Tsjajka RUS 12 + (2 3 3 3 3) 26 3. Per Olov Serenius SWE 14 + (3 2 3 1 2) 25 4. Antonin Klatovsky CZ 12 (2 3 2 2 2) 23 5. Johnny Tuinstra NL 10 + (3 3 1 3 2) 22 6. Kai Lehtinen FIN 8 + (1 2 2 3 3) 19 +3 7. Per Anders Lindström SWE 11 + (3 2 X 2 1) 19 +2 8. Stefan Pletschacher GER 5 + (2 1 0 2 3) 13 9. Martin Leitner AUT 6 + (1 1 2 2 1) 13 10. Henri Malinen FIN 6 + (0 0 3 1 1) 11 11. Mario Schwaiger AUT 5 + (0 2 2 0 2) 11 12. Jouni Seppänen FIN 6 + (2 1 1 1 X) 11 13. Jan Pecina CZ 4 + (1 1 1 0 1) 8 14. Michal Widera POL 3 + (1 0 0 0 0) 4 15. Oleg Dosaev UKR 3 + (- - - - -) 3 16. Miroslaw Daniszewski POL 0 + (0 0 1 1 0) 2 17. Zdzislaw Zerdzinski POL 0 + (- - - - -) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkers 67 Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) If that is the case, I make the 18 riders for the Finals are: Franz Zorn (A) Harald Simon (A) Marcus Skabraut (A) (Res) Antonin Klatovsky (CzR) Gunter Bauer (D) Johnny Tuinstra (NL) Danil Ivanov (Rus) Dmitri Khomitsevich (Rus) Ivan Ivanov (Rus) Nikolai Krasnikov (Rus) Pavel Tschajka (Rus) Vitali Khomitsevich (Rus) Yunir Bazeev (Rus) Per-Olof Serenius (S) Stefan Svensson (S) Antti Aakko (SF) Kai Lehtinen (SF) Tommy Flyktman (SF) (res) Edit after checking Speedway.org However, if the Poles do take their seeded spot then I think Lehtinen will be reserve and one of the other reserves will be out. Edited January 26, 2009 by Conkers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
