spin king junior 394 Posted June 25, 2010 It is sad that James has lost his place, but if he is not performing then it really is irrelevant what nationality he is. But how can you expect him to up his performance, when he is getting sacked by his club. If the Heathens we're not willing to give James the time he needed, to develop into a better rider and get vital track time, then they shouldn't have in the first place, they should have let another club take him on board that would have given him this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OGT 612 Posted June 25, 2010 If the rules are so wrong, change 'em. But as there are so many promoters willing to take a chance on young Aussie talent, I guess that will never happen. They're the only people who can do anything about it either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted June 25, 2010 It's funny how I have stated in my previous posts that this is not an 'anti-aussie' issue but an issue of doing more for our own youngsters as well, but of course BFD decided to neglect that fact. He also neglects the fact that the league is called the National DEVELOPMENT League. It is written in the rulebook, we're not making it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFatDave 258 Posted June 25, 2010 It's funny how I have stated in my previous posts that this is not an 'anti-aussie' issue but an issue of doing more for our own youngsters as well, but of course BFD decided to neglect that fact. He also neglects the fact that the league is called the National DEVELOPMENT League. It is written in the rulebook, we're not making it up. According to the British Speedway Official Website its called the National League, Benny boy. If you're going to have a go at someone at least get it right. If its not an Anti-Aussie issue how do you explain these few examples? I am fed up to the back teeth of Aussies in the National league. .Why not fill the bl***y leagues with Aussies, then perhaps most promoters will be happy. Why should we british fans pay for Aussies to fullfil their ambitions at the expense of our kids. seems they change that rule for aussies ......... this league should be for brits I genuinely don't understand the reaction by many. Perhaps it's just anti-Aussie nonsense? Jealousy about the fact that at the moment they're producing a lot of young talented riders? Got that right, 21stCH. Ommer Um Cradley!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swift Saint 186 Posted June 25, 2010 According to the British Speedway Official Website its called the National League, Benny boy. If you're going to have a Have you considered that perhaps the website have used an abbreviation that is incorrect? It is and always has been the British National Development League and I think that what is now assured is that there will be very much strict rules in future about these issues thank goodness. There may also be penalties for Clubs who use riders from overseas for short periods who then clear off never having intended to complete the season and thus distorting the integrity of the League. Malcolm Vasey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parsloes 1928 nearly 495 Posted June 25, 2010 Have you considered that perhaps the website have used an abbreviation that is incorrect? It is and always has been the British National Development League ... Malcolm Vasey Hmm, not really. This title is hardly ever used and I recall you yourself saying previously that when the 'D' word appeared in the rule book it was as much as a surprise to you as anyone... It's a proper third division and it's the National League and IMHO there ain't much wrong with it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) According to the British Speedway Official Website its called the National League, Benny boy. If you're going to have a go at someone at least get it right. If its not an Anti-Aussie issue how do you explain these few examples? Oh dear, I believe if you look here which is the British Speedway Rulebook for 2010 you will find that you are a hypocrite. As for your examples, not one is of a post I have made, I can't control what other people say, can I? Edited June 25, 2010 by RocketBen1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
montie 1,273 Posted June 25, 2010 Buxton have never paid big money out unlike a lot of other clubs. er cough Adam ALLOTT just remember you started it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFatDave 258 Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) Have you considered that perhaps the website have used an abbreviation that is incorrect? It is and always has been the British National Development League and I think that what is now assured is that there will be very much strict rules in future about these issues thank goodness. There may also be penalties for Clubs who use riders from overseas for short periods who then clear off never having intended to complete the season and thus distorting the integrity of the League. Malcolm Vasey Here's a quick one for you. Malcolm. Google up 'British National Development League' and see what you get. Have you considered that you may not be right? The British Speedway Promoters Asociation calls it the National League; I didn't see any disclaimer on the site that says "we may have used an abbreviation that isn't correct": I think you're making it up as you go along. As you of all people should know, an abbreviation (from Latin brevis, meaning short) is a shortened form of a word or phrase, ergo an abbreviation of National League would be 'NL'. Google up 'BNDL' and see what you get, as well. Let me know how you get on. Oh, by the way, are you one of the so-called 'Promoters' that are trying to stamp out Buxton? YUP!! 17.4.7 National Development League ps. National (in my Collins Concise...) = belongining or pertaining to a nation Development = improvement, progress, grow to maturere state If that's how your Collins Concise spells 'belonging' and 'mature' I'd get another one if I were you, scribbler. Edited June 25, 2010 by BigFatDave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribbler 213 Posted June 25, 2010 Oh dear, I believe if you look here which is the British Speedway Rulebook for 2010 you will find that you are a hypocrite. YUP!! 17.4.7 National Development League ps. National (in my Collins Concise...) = belongining or pertaining to a nation Development = improvement, progress, grow to maturere state Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFatDave 258 Posted June 25, 2010 Oh dear, I believe if you look here which is the British Speedway Rulebook for 2010 you will find that you are a hypocrite. As for your examples, not one is of a post I have made, I can't control what other people say, can I? Benny boy, you don't even know what the word 'Hypocrite' means, do you? However if your idea of debate is to attack the poster not the post then I don't reckon you belong on here. You say this is not an anti-Aussie issue: I've provided three examples of anti-Aussie postings. If you can't accept that then its pretty obvious who the hypocrite is, wouldn't you agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted June 25, 2010 Benny boy, you don't even know what the word 'Hypocrite' means, do you? However if your idea of debate is to attack the poster not the post then I don't reckon you belong on here. You say this is not an anti-Aussie issue: I've provided three examples of anti-Aussie postings. If you can't accept that then its pretty obvious who the hypocrite is, wouldn't you agree? Attack the post not the poster, I've not attacked you once, I have proven your point is wrong, thus you are being hypocritical, something I have correctly stated. You are also now being patronising as i'm sure calling me 'Benny boy' is in reference to my age, something which does not invalidate my opinion, or allow you to speak to me in such a tone. Yes you have provided three examples, however they were not posted by me and are not my opinion, I am not 'anti-aussie' and I have stated that beforehand, I have proven to you that the league is called the National Development League and there is no denying that fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigFatDave 258 Posted June 25, 2010 Attack the post not the poster, I've not attacked you once, I have proven your point is wrong, thus you are being hypocritical, something I have correctly stated. You are also now being patronising as i'm sure calling me 'Benny boy' is in reference to my age, something which does not invalidate my opinion, or allow you to speak to me in such a tone. Yes you have provided three examples, however they were not posted by me and are not my opinion, I am not 'anti-aussie' and I have stated that beforehand, I have proven to you that the league is called the National Development League and there is no denying that fact. Mate, you've dug through the archives and found an obscure PDF file; well-hidden in that is chapter 17 sub section 7 paragraph whatever, which you cite as proof positive - all I've done is used half-a-dozen international search engines which couldn't find it - for all I know you might have hidden it yourself. There's no mention of it on the BSPA Website, either, and the BSPA, which calls the National League the National League, is good enough for me. You're persisting in calling me a Hypocrite - that's attacking the poster in my book, more so because you obviously don't know the meaning of the word. I call you 'Benny Boy' in a deliberate reference to Benny the Ball, a cartoon character in Top Cat, because I reckon you could do with some lightening-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben91 1,743 Posted June 25, 2010 Mate, you've dug through the archives and found an obscure PDF file; well-hidden in that is chapter 17 sub section 7 paragraph whatever, which you cite as proof positive - all I've done is used half-a-dozen international search engines which couldn't find it - for all I know you might have hidden it yourself. There's no mention of it on the BSPA Website, either, and the BSPA, which calls the National League the National League, is good enough for me. You're persisting in calling me a Hypocrite - that's attacking the poster in my book, more so because you obviously don't know the meaning of the word. I call you 'Benny Boy' in a deliberate reference to Benny the Ball, a cartoon character in Top Cat, because I reckon you could do with some lightening-up. This obscure document is the official rulebook for British Speedway in 2010... Unbelieveable . I have stated in one post that you were being hypocritical, backed up by evidence, that is not personal abuse in my book but reasoned argument. As for lightening up, I don't need any, however I take umbridge to somebody telling me that I have an 'anti-aussie' attitude due to what other people have said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scribbler 213 Posted June 25, 2010 Mate, you've dug through the archives and found an obscure PDF file; well-hidden in that is chapter 17 sub section 7 paragraph whatever, which you cite as proof positive - all I've done is used half-a-dozen international search engines That 'obsure pdf' happens to be the 2010 Rulebook - can't get more up-to-date than that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
