superguest 194 Posted September 21, 2010 Harris had already fallen before Schlien made the mistake! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wjm 261 Posted September 21, 2010 Absolutely no way in the world that Schlein should have been excluded. Even if you say Harris had to lay it down because he would have collected Rory, then its still Harris to go. Otherwise you would be suggesting that a quicker rider, when behind just has to ride into the guy in front and claim he was going too slow! Going at that speed? If a rider just kept it on and collected riders in front of them making a mistake it would be carnage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyin rocket 0 Posted September 21, 2010 yes we love Bridger at the EOES We know you don't like him, but to shout that abuse when you're sat near kids is disgusting. Boo by all means, but that - no! agreed - unfortunately that what some of the natives are like from those parts... Unacceptable behaviour! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted September 21, 2010 well i was on the back-straight & when the white light came on & KK was still down a loud cheer came from the stand, if we heard it over there a few people must have been wearing ear-mufflers. Well that's a bit different to what you said in your original post. To cheer like they did in the grandstand when KK came off & could have been injured was just plain spiteful. So the cheering occured when the White light came on meaning the oposition rider was excluded. I think if it had been the other way round at Brandon some of our fans would have reacted in the same way. I didn't hear any cheering from Peterborough fans when K.K. hit the fence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colincooke 0 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) Should really mention Heat 3 as well, how many times do riders need to be told to stay still before they're booted out the race, i counted twice PUK was let off. I was begining to think some betting syndicate had a wager on how many starts there'd be in that race. Seriously though in the bigger picture of things it mattered little. Edited September 21, 2010 by colincooke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 21, 2010 Going at that speed? If a rider just kept it on and collected riders in front of them making a mistake it would be carnage. Then Harris shouldn't be entering the corner at such speed should he? It doesn't matter how you twist it around, it was the fault of Harris. You're still conveniently forgetting that Harris was already down before Schlein even made his mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wjm 261 Posted September 21, 2010 Then Harris shouldn't be entering the corner at such speed should he? It doesn't matter how you twist it around, it was the fault of Harris. You're still conveniently forgetting that Harris was already down before Schlein even made his mistake. Why would he not go in the corner at speed?. Given the level they are racing at the riders trust each other not to make a mistake. But some times riders will get out of shape and the rider behind will need to take evasive action. The first mistake in that bend was by Schlien. Harris made a comparable mistake in the next race and kept the bike up because he could keep the throttle open. Had he done that when behind Schlien he would have collected him and took them both out. It is a grey area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pandorum 1,259 Posted September 21, 2010 Neither match was any kind of spectacle over any of the 4 legs. But having said that fair play to Coventry for grasping the nettle of the EOESG! Wolves were awful home and away and Peterborough deserved all they got last night. That track was a disgrace and it was fortunate nobody ended up badly hurt. I feel sorry for the 'Boro fans if that was their team during their most important meeting of the season. #1 was a joke and good luck getting rid of him for 2011. Schlein was unlucky as the ref was wrong on that one. But it would not have made a happorth of difference as 'Boro gave up in heat #1. Speedway never seems to grasp the concept of the Big Picture and always seems like a Mickey Mouse operation run by used car dealers. It's NOT what Speedway can do for you. It's what YOU can do for speedway. The Play Offs should be a showcase for the sport NOT a showcase for the dullards that run it. Once again another p#ss poor play off. Bet the final is even duller. Prepare tracks for racing that blows the watcher away you morons not just tracks that blow! Good luck Coventry as you will need it against Poole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sancho 28 Posted September 21, 2010 agreed - unfortunately that what some of the natives are like from those parts... Unacceptable behaviour! Talkin of unacceptable behaviour. What was the pit gate guy up to after the Schlein/Harris incident Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 21, 2010 Why would he not go in the corner at speed?. Given the level they are racing at the riders trust each other not to make a mistake. But some times riders will get out of shape and the rider behind will need to take evasive action. The first mistake in that bend was by Schlien. Harris made a comparable mistake in the next race and kept the bike up because he could keep the throttle open. Had he done that when behind Schlien he would have collected him and took them both out. It is a grey area. You clearly have not watched the replay have you. Harris was already falling before Schlein got out of shape. And to answer your question. No Harris can't just go charging in at high speed if there is a slower rider in front of him. Every week in meetings all over the country you will see races where a slower rider has gated. The rider behind has to either choose a different line if he wishes to go charging in or go slower himself and wait for the opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sancho 28 Posted September 21, 2010 But it would not have made a happorth of difference as 'Boro gave up in heat #1. Think you'll find some of them gave up before heat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,513 Posted September 21, 2010 I am no fan of Schlein, quite the reverse actually. But that decision last night was ludicrous, the ref got it totally wrong, Harris should have been out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wjm 261 Posted September 21, 2010 You clearly have not watched the replay have you. Harris was already falling before Schlein got out of shape. And to answer your question. No Harris can't just go charging in at high speed if there is a slower rider in front of him. Every week in meetings all over the country you will see races where a slower rider has gated. The rider behind has to either choose a different line if he wishes to go charging in or go slower himself and wait for the opportunity. Yes I have. Schlien made an initial mistake before he began to pull a locker. Harris didn’t go in the bend behind a rider going slow. He went in behind a rider who was going at race speed and then made a mistake in the middle of the corner that killed his speed when he was about 5 yards in front of him. I would expect the rider behind to take evasive action if some one in front of him makes a mistake. If they didn’t there would be a lot more injuries than there currently is in the sport. You could have made a point for excluding either IMO. A rider in front making a mistake and a rider behind him coming down is very much a grey area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simon G 0 Posted September 21, 2010 Talkin of unacceptable behaviour. What was the pit gate guy up to after the Schlein/Harris incident Why what happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted September 21, 2010 Harris should have been excluded,terrible decision,Harris was already laying it down before Schlein even started to lock up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
