The White Knight 9,039 Posted April 4, 2015 Thought the same as poole will have 4 riders over 7 whilst Wolves will have none! Worrying for Wolves as Freddie would be on a 5pt avg if needed guest and Kennett would become a heat leader for Lakeside. New way of doing averages leaves teams open to manipulation in making changes, preferred 28match Would that not suit certain Teams? :shock: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted April 6, 2015 In the past I have been critical that the full details have been kept secret so its a big thumbs up from me for the new info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gambo 1,341 Posted April 9, 2015 There has been a change to the Rolling Average criteria for 2015. As of May 1st Issue, only 2014 and 2015 matches will count in the Rolling Averages (to a maximum of 20 matches). Therefore, riders who had 2013 matches in their current RA will have them discounted. This may mean that some riders will only have 2015 matches in their RA, and will therefore not have their current average updated until they have achieved the 4H & 4A benchmark. Elite League Riders concerned include Stuart Robson & K Gomolski. PL Riders include:- BERWICK: Edberg GLASGOW: Smith IPSWICH: Nielsen NEWCASTLE: Rosen, Henry PETERBOROUGH: Palm Toft PLYMOUTH: Fisher, Morris RYE HOUSE: Aspegren, Mellgren SCUNTHORPE: Davies SHEFFIELD: Compton This is not a definitive list, there may be others that I have missed. ATB Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted April 17, 2015 There has been a change to the Rolling Average criteria for 2015. As of May 1st Issue, only 2014 and 2015 matches will count in the Rolling Averages (to a maximum of 20 matches). Therefore, riders who had 2013 matches in their current RA will have them discounted. This may mean that some riders will only have 2015 matches in their RA, and will therefore not have their current average updated until they have achieved the 4H & 4A benchmark. Elite League Riders concerned include Stuart Robson & K Gomolski. PL Riders include:- BERWICK: Edberg GLASGOW: Smith IPSWICH: Nielsen NEWCASTLE: Rosen, Henry PETERBOROUGH: Palm Toft PLYMOUTH: Fisher, Morris RYE HOUSE: Aspegren, Mellgren SCUNTHORPE: Davies SHEFFIELD: Compton This is not a definitive list, there may be others that I have missed. ATB Dave Although these is provision for a new average to be applied even if the 4 home 4 away is not reached. Perhaps needs to be applied where there may be a re-declaration. The new calculations have disappeared from the BSPA site - hope they come back soon. Wouldn't want it to seem like anything is being hidden to slide through any dodgy changes!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted April 25, 2015 Looking through the May 1st averages it appears to be only Alex Davies that has been awarded a new average of those assessed/converted/out of date despite not riding 4home 4away. Is this correct or just a mistake? Such a shame that the excellent new info on rolling averages has been removed frim the BSPA site. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted April 26, 2015 Looking through the May 1st averages it appears to be only Alex Davies that has been awarded a new average of those assessed/converted/out of date despite not riding 4home 4away. Is this correct or just a mistake? Such a shame that the excellent new info on rolling averages has been removed frim the BSPA site. It's almost certainly a mistake, as is Robbos 4 point average for Coventry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 1, 2015 It's almost certainly a mistake, as is Robbos 4 point average for Coventry.confirmed at the 11th hour! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 3, 2015 So we appear to be on supplementary regulation 3.0 already after not much more than a month of the season! Together with the figures being hidden again and the new rules not even being put in the public domain its a poor show. Inconsistency and a lack of transparency yet again! So we appear to be on supplementary regulation 3.0 already after not much more than a month of the season! Together with the figures being hidden again and the new rules not even being put in the public domain its a poor show. Inconsistency and a lack of transparency yet again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 617 Posted May 5, 2015 There has been a change to the Rolling Average criteria for 2015. As of May 1st Issue, only 2014 and 2015 matches will count in the Rolling Averages (to a maximum of 20 matches). Therefore, riders who had 2013 matches in their current RA will have them discounted. This may mean that some riders will only have 2015 matches in their RA, and will therefore not have their current average updated until they have achieved the 4H & 4A benchmark. Elite League Riders concerned include Stuart Robson & K Gomolski. PL Riders include:- BERWICK: Edberg GLASGOW: Smith IPSWICH: Nielsen NEWCASTLE: Rosen, Henry PETERBOROUGH: Palm Toft PLYMOUTH: Fisher, Morris RYE HOUSE: Aspegren, Mellgren SCUNTHORPE: Davies SHEFFIELD: Compton This is not a definitive list, there may be others that I have missed. ATB Dave Why is Davies on a 20 match rolling average with 2013 matches included in his average? Seems speedway rules change daily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 27, 2015 So do 2013 meetings count now or not? Because they're not included in Danny Kings average. But they are in Freddie Lindgrens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted May 27, 2015 So do 2013 meetings count now or not? Because they're not included in Danny Kings average. But they are in Freddie Lindgrens.farcial really.Should be all or none IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 27, 2015 farcial really. Should be all or none IMO. Exactly. It makes no sense at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted May 27, 2015 I'm really confused Can somebody post an idiots guide to this years averages? You're not alone! And in a word, no! in a little more than a word, we were todl that it's last 20 meetings but only meetings from '14 and '15 count. But for some unknown reason, despite the fact he has no ridden 9 meetings this season, Freddie Lindgren doesn't have a 2015 average but seems to have some mix of his old and new average! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted May 27, 2015 I'm really confused Can somebody post an idiots guide to this years averages? Only an idiot probably. :rolleyes: Remember - Speeedway is a simple Sport. :rolleyes: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AllyN 4 Posted April 25, 2016 Does anyone know how often EL averages will change for those with an established rolling average? I vaguely recall reading that it won't be done every month, but possibly every 2 weeks for all teams or for each specific team after every 4 matches they ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
