Speedway Gp In Tatters !

[Gearhead 31]

Yes, what speedway needs is a GP on a beach in St. Lucia, riders coming in after two laps to change tyres and Katie Price juggling her wangers at the camera.

 

One thing is for sure, it proves beyond doubt that Formula 1 is the dullest racing sport in the world.

 

Totally agree,F1 is a bit of a joke,same drivers finishing around the same places,most teams no chance of winning,rules are not great either,what's all that about having to use all the tyres? I flicked through last weeks where Webber was around 3rd but had to come in on the last lap and change tyres as he hadn't used them??,Super Mario Cart steering wheels with a button for Kers for extra speed,and another to open a flap to pass,but only if you're within a second? Nearly as bad as Speedway!

Edited November 19, 2011 by Gearhead

[waiheke1 4,295]

Think FA Cup (I'm sure Bryn must've seen his footballing hero Sam Bartram in the old Third Round tie!! ): suppose the Cup Finalists from one year were seeded directly to the semis of the next year..! It's the equivalent of that!!

 

actually, its more like the top 17 in the premiership competing in the premiership the following season... imagine that, how ridiculous would that be

[WIE-JA 72]

actually, its more like the top 17 in the premiership competing in the premiership the following season... imagine that, how ridiculous would that be

Haha! What a joke sport. A sport that operates with ridiculous rules like that will never catch on with the public

[Parsloes 1928 nearly 495]

actually, its more like the top 17 in the premiership competing in the premiership the following season... imagine that, how ridiculous would that be

 

Well it's not though is it, because proper World Championships or similar major championships like the FIFA World Cup, the World Athletics championships, the Olympics, Wimbledon Tennis etc. are based around qualification and then in progress, are KNOCK-OUT.. This is what the World Speedway Championship USED to be like... Now it's not; and you're correct in your allusion, it's become more like a league and one in which there's limited relegation.

Fine if you're happy with that of course, but at least acknowledge that there's been a massive change and that for some it's NOT been a change for the better...

[The White Knight 9,039]

Well it's not though is it, because proper World Championships or similar major championships like the FIFA World Cup, the World Athletics championships, the Olympics, Wimbledon Tennis etc. are based around qualification and then in progress, are KNOCK-OUT.. This is what the World Speedway Championship USED to be like... Now it's not; and you're correct in your allusion, it's become more like a league and one in which there's limited relegation.Fine if you're happy with that of course, but at least acknowledge that there's been a massive change and that for some it's NOT been a change for the better...

 

 

..........AND limited PARTICIPATION.

[orion 7,631]

Well it's not though is it, because proper World Championships or similar major championships like the FIFA World Cup, the World Athletics championships, the Olympics, Wimbledon Tennis etc. are based around qualification and then in progress, are KNOCK-OUT.. This is what the World Speedway Championship USED to be like... Now it's not; and you're correct in your allusion, it's become more like a league and one in which there's limited relegation.

Fine if you're happy with that of course, but at least acknowledge that there's been a massive change and that for some it's NOT been a change for the better...

 

 

I thought that at Wimbledon there were wildcards ? i also thought that the host in the Football world cup went into the finals without playing a game ? or have those rules changed ?

 

When do the F1 qualification rounds start ?

[WIE-JA 72]

 

 

When do the F1 qualification rounds start ?

 

About the same time as the MotoGP, World Superbikes/supersport, Euro F3, World Rally Championship, World Touring Cars, Motocross, Trials etc start.

[PolskiZuzel 329]

There is no doubt that many young riders are attracted to speedway because of the SGP, they aspire to race on big occasions in big stadiums and on television around the world.

But there is a doubt, Mr. Rising, there is !!.

 

Just look at Darcy Ward. He is young, he is aspiring...but he doesn't want to ride in SGP. And there are many more like him. In the present format SGP is a 'dead duck'. The future lies with European Speedway League, and the World Cup like the Daily Mirror Championship back in the 70's. As far as individual World Championship is concerned let's go back to proven formula on one day World Final.

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

I have said before and will do so again ... there is a paucity of young talent right now but give it a couple of years and there will be plenty of young riders with Grand Prix aspirations. Peter Ljung may not be a potential World Champion but fair play to the guy. Like Zetterstrom before him, he sees participation in the Grand Prix as a genuine achievement and something that in later years he will be able to look back at with pride.

 

Hopefully the situation when Polish clubs can effectively blackmail riders into having to choose between racing for a particular team or the Grand Prix will soon be resolved, perhaps as early as Monday.

[PolskiZuzel 329]

Is this because you don't have a local team to support, if you felt an affiliation with a team then you'd probably feel different ......

 

Perhaps :-)

 

But when you allow yourself to look at it objectively then you must realize that speedway is an INDIVIDUAL sport. It is like running, jumping, throwing,

boxing, etc. One individual against another, sometimes more than another.

Teams have been created later. Not only in speedway, but also athletics...and even boxing.

[PolskiZuzel 329]

Hopefully the situation when Polish clubs can effectively blackmail riders into having to choose between racing for a particular team or the Grand Prix will soon be resolved, perhaps as early as Monday.

 

Go on, tell us more. What's going to happen on Monday?

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

Go on, tell us more. What's going to happen on Monday?

 

WAIT and see. And, for the record, Darcy Ward never said he didn't want to ride in the Grand Prix. On the contrary, but he did say that he felt it would perhaps be better to wait a year given that he had age on his side and had seen at first hand how much work off the track he needed to do beforehand.

 

And, of course, there was the ultimatum from Torun.

 

You will also have noted that many other riders have elected to change clubs in Poland rather than withdraw from the SGP.

[PolskiZuzel 329]

AND the pressure he was put under by Torun.

 

What pressure, Mr Rising ?

You like keeping us in suspense, don't you?

 

I repeat again, what pressure he was put under by Torun?

If there was any pressure, then - in my opinion - that pressure arose from the fact that he had a choice.

To ride for Torun, or to ride for BSI/IMG.

Personally speaking - he made the right decision.

Perhaps the BSI/IMG will finally wake up and rejuvenate the whole system and pay decent wages to riders.

[Parsloes 1928 nearly 495]

I thought that at Wimbledon there were wildcards ? i also thought that the host in the Football world cup went into the finals without playing a game ? or have those rules changed ?

 

Yes and the old Word Final guaranteed home representation too... But none of these nit-picking and entirely obvious points are actually a DEFENCE of the system used in the SGPs which as I say you can like as much as you want, but is clearly deeply flawed from the purity of a proper World Championship point of view...

[orion 7,631]

Yes and the old Word Final guaranteed home representation too... But none of these nit-picking and entirely obvious points are actually a DEFENCE of the system used in the SGPs which as I say you can like as much as you want, but is clearly deeply flawed from the purity of a proper World Championship point of view...

 

 

No you choose to used other sports as an example as how they are true world championship events in your eyes, as i have show you that is not the case .

 

Not sure how they were obvious when you missed them out when trying to make your example ..the bottom line if you look closely at any sport the you will find it deeply flawed as a proper world championship just like the one off World Final was .