Dempo 124 Posted July 4, 2012 Hopefully G Laguta gets an FIM pick for 2013 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.N.T. 355 Posted July 5, 2012 This years top 8 should be (in any order) 01 - Greg Hancock 02 - Chris Holder 03 - Jason Crump 04 - Nicki Pedersen 05 - Tomasz Gollob 06 - Fredrik Lindgren 07 - Emil Sayfutdinov 08 - Andreas Jonsson Wild Cards (almost certain) 09 - Jarek Hampel ........ due to injuries in 2012 10 - Darcy Ward ............ no brainer 11 - Tai Woffinden ........ The only Brit that can be selected GP Challenge Qualifiers 12 - 13 - 14 - Final Wild Card Nomination 15 - Martin Vaculik .............. If he fails to qualify For me its pretty obvious who is going to fill 12 of the 15 places, its now sit back and see who qualifies ...... should Vaculik qualify from the GP Challenge then it would be a suprise to see the rider finishing 4th from the GPC going through also Wouldn't mind Madsen, MJJ or Watt qualifying, but can see Kasprzak, Iversen and Lindback being spoilers Either way, this wouldn't be too far off the top 15 riders Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JCookie 753 Posted July 5, 2012 Woffinden is not in the top 15 riders in the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,942 Posted July 5, 2012 What' this obsession with Vaculik? 1 good GP round and now he deserves a fulltime GP place. http://postimage.org/image/gzk64uz6j/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manchesterpaul 447 Posted July 6, 2012 Woffinden is not in the top 15 riders in the world. Methinks neither is Chris Harris! Although, eternal thanks for one of the greatest British sporting moments ever with his Cardiff win, thank you. What an eternal shame that the BBC on their Sportsman (or is is persons now?) Of The Year Award could not spare just over 60 seconds of footage that would have sent chills down the spine of any sports competitor in the audience and viewers at home. I still watch that race and think he won't win, total goosepimple stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornishman 18 Posted July 9, 2012 I think the world cup meeting has proven once again tonight that although Harris is struggling badly in the gp's this year, Britain doesn't have anyone better. He was by far our best rider tonight. Personally I don't think GB should have a rider in the 2013 gp series, I'd much rather see someone like Darcy or Vaculik come in. But if there does have to be a British rider, Bomber is still number 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted July 11, 2012 I agree that Harris is our best rider, so I would imagine that the organisers are hoping he can get a big finish and make a final or two so they can re-select him. Harris may be struggling this year, but he is above Woffinden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,831 Posted July 11, 2012 Woffinden is not in the top 15 riders in the world. Nor is Harris, nor is Ljung........................................................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dump that clutch 630 Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) What' this obsession with Vaculik? 1 good GP round and now he deserves a fulltime GP place. http://postimage.org/image/gzk64uz6j/ I'd of thought you would of been the last person to talk of obsession Edited July 11, 2012 by dump that clutch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,974 Posted July 11, 2012 The GP series produces the best GP rider rankings. Given that the SGP is now 12 rounds and again uses the less arbitrary round robin format for each GP, it would be reasonable to say the top part of the GP rider rankings and the world's best riders are synonymous. What the GP rankings don't tell you though, is how good riders who don't race in the series are by comparison, and where riders are picked as much for television and sponsorship reasons, there could well be discrepancies in this respect. Outside of the SGP, by far the best determination of ability is league averages. Whilst obviously not every rider competes in every league, as you say there's enough of a crossover to work out a reasonable coefficient for each league and thereby how an average established in one league might translate to an average in another league. What is less certain though, is where riders compete in more than one league, how should their 2 or 3 averages be weighted relatively to each other. For example, if a rider competes in Poland and Sweden, should they take 50% of each average to work out their overall ranking, or maybe 60-40 in favour of Poland? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites