Uk Speedway Series

[Hazzman 72]

 

the SCB just as you can't run football outside of the F.A., and you couldn't open a McDonalds franchise without buying one off McDonalds corporation.

 

 

Interesting point. You can under a slight different guise I.e. lots of 5 a side leagues without FA affiliation.

 

So if you dress it up slightly different, ie. differing format may you could.

 

The disturbing point here really is how dismissive the BSPA/SCB has been. Most sporting leagues have to hold affiliation with the national body and very, very rarely are the leagues/competitions dismissed with such ignorance.

Edited February 10, 2013 by Hazzman

[orion 7,615]

Interesting point. You can under a slight different guise I.e. lots of 5 a side leagues without FA affiliation.

 

So if you dress it up slightly different, ie. differing format may you could.

 

The disturbing point here really is how dismissive the BSPA/SCB has been. Most sporting leagues have to hold affiliation with the national body and very, very rarely are the leagues/competitions dismissed with such ignorance.

 

It's not really disturbing it the way these people have gone about i'st no wonder they were so dismissive not only with them but with this cow pat of a idea .

[iris123 20,991]

.i am all for makeing things better but this idea is crap ..if your going change things then they have to be for the better and getting a load of second rate riders in a series of meetings is not .

 

If the BSPA had come up with this idea we would had 20 pages of what a stupid idea is was but because it's some one else it's the best thing since sliced bread .

You can't really compare the position.The BSPA have been running the show for decades,so if this was all they could come up with to move the sport forward then sure,no-one would be impressed.The fact is though this is a new group trying something.So where do they start?Juniors wouldn't really be right and Elite riders wouldn't take much notice unless big money was thrown at them.To me this is just the right level to test the waters.

[orion 7,615]

You can't really compare the position.The BSPA have been running the show for decades,so if this was all they could come up with to move the sport forward then sure,no-one would be impressed.The fact is though this is a new group trying something.So where do they start?Juniors wouldn't really be right and Elite riders wouldn't take much notice unless big money was thrown at them.To me this is just the right level to test the waters.

 

Test what waters ? i don't see this helping anyone ..it's not going to help the sport and there is no demand for it as well ...i tell you where to start, come up with a good idea .

[iris123 20,991]

Test what waters ? i don't see this helping anyone ..it's not going to help the sport and there is no demand for it as well ...i tell you where to start, come up with a good idea .

That is part of the problem.We really have little info,so don't know what the plans were.All we can gather is they were going to pay out money for the use of stadiums and riders.So that answers your question on who it was going to help.Fans have the choice of whether to go to one of these meetings or not,so it seems as far as i can see no-one was going to be out of pocket apart from maybe MCF,so who is it harming?At the moment we don't know if this opposition is unexpected to the MCF or if they aren't going to go away just because the SCB tell them to.It is plain the sport is in a bad shape.The only ones responsible are the BSPA.They are not though going to let someone just mosey up and start running their own show using BSPA facilities and riders.It will take confrontation and money.Someone wanting to shake things up are going to need a few tracks and a good amount of riders on their pay-roll.Like someone else said in the end fans couldn't care less who is running things as long as the product is good.If they have good ideas,good sponsors and can take the sport forward i hope they don't give up after one failed try

[kiwi 49]

I bet any money you like if it doesn't get off the ground.that next season the BSPA with bring in a six round gp style series and tell us what a good idea it is

[Vince 9,458]

Test what waters ? i don't see this helping anyone ..it's not going to help the sport and there is no demand for it as well ...i tell you where to start, come up with a good idea .

 

I wonder if the good idea was to do with the way the event was run rather than the riders involved, perhaps there were ideas of how to promote the event to get non Speedway supporters along, possibly they were going to do something between races or vary the format, we know from biker fm that there was to be a 6 man final. Perhaps there was to be something done with admission prices and so on, there are any number of possibilities. Would be good to know if any or all of these would work surely.

 

Besides that if you have a carefully selected field of riders over roughly equal ability you are likely to see better racing than when a couple of superstars are involved anyway.

[orion 7,615]

That is part of the problem.We really have little info,so don't know what the plans were.All we can gather is they were going to pay out money for the use of stadiums and riders.So that answers your question on who it was going to help.Fans have the choice of whether to go to one of these meetings or not,so it seems as far as i can see no-one was going to be out of pocket apart from maybe MCF,so who is it harming?At the moment we don't know if this opposition is unexpected to the MCF or if they aren't going to go away just because the SCB tell them to.It is plain the sport is in a bad shape.The only ones responsible are the BSPA.They are not though going to let someone just mosey up and start running their own show using BSPA facilities and riders.It will take confrontation and money.Someone wanting to shake things up are going to need a few tracks and a good amount of riders on their pay-roll.Like someone else said in the end fans couldn't care less who is running things as long as the product is good.If they have good ideas,good sponsors and can take the sport forward i hope they don't give up after one failed try

 

If you don't know who these people are how do you now if they are going to pay the riders ,staduim etc ? allowing any tom ,dick or harry to run things under the name of speedway can cause massive damage to the sport, so yes it can harm other people

[iris123 20,991]

If you don't know who these people are how do you now if they are going to pay the riders ,staduim etc ? allowing any tom ,dick or harry to run things under the name of speedway can cause massive damage to the sport, so yes it can harm other people

Try to remain sensible.First we have comments that it isn't possible to run speedway,which plainly isn't true.Now you go on about not knowing the people when they clearly have history,just not in speedway.If they were fly by night merchants the MotoX people would be up in arms.It seems they are so fly by night that Red Bull work with them!!!!! So try to argue with some sense

[orion 7,615]

Try to remain sensible.First we have comments that it isn't possible to run speedway,which plainly isn't true.Now you go on about not knowing the people when they clearly have history,just not in speedway.If they were fly by night merchants the MotoX people would be up in arms.It seems they are so fly by night that Red Bull work with them!!!!! So try to argue with some sense

 

Sorry i thought you said you never knew what there plans were ..but now you know all about them ...they hardly smack of greatness saying they are going to run speedway meetings without getting past the legal aspect to run them, sound like a bunch of jokers to me .

[Leicester Hunter 381]

If you don't know who these people are how do you now if they are going to pay the riders ,staduim etc ? allowing any tom ,dick or harry to run things under the name of speedway can cause massive damage to the sport, so yes it can harm other people

I thought that's what happens now. They're called the BSPA and SCB, governed (and I use the term loosely) by the ACU.

I bet any money you like if it doesn't get off the ground.that next season the BSPA with bring in a six round gp style series and tell us what a good idea it is

Yes, it's got more than a faint whiff of 'not thought of here' about it.

[comebackkings 113]

If you don't know who these people are how do you now if they are going to pay the riders ,staduim etc ? allowing any tom ,dick or harry to run things under the name of speedway can cause massive damage to the sport, so yes it can harm other people

 

Your belief in the SCB and BSPA is nice to see, and I'm sure that they will appreciate it.

 

So speedway riders won't get paid now, thats after there won't be any insurance and that the riders are rubbish, whats the next line of attack I wonder.

 

They already run succesful motorcycle racing series and brought in sponsors such as Red Bull and Monster, just as BSI have with the World cup, which is more than the BSPA have managed for a few years. Remember Gospeeds Janet and John selling PowerPoint presentation of last year.

 

David bloody Cameron could run a better setup than the BSPA FFS.

[Vince 9,458]

If you don't know who these people are how do you now if they are going to pay the riders ,staduim etc ? allowing any tom ,dick or harry to run things under the name of speedway can cause massive damage to the sport, so yes it can harm other people

 

None of those things could ever happen now, no promoter could ever end up owing money to landlords or riders. Easily solved if proof of funding is asked for.

[iris123 20,991]

Sorry i thought you said you never knew what there plans were ..but now you know all about them ...they hardly smack of greatness saying they are going to run speedway meetings without getting past the legal aspect to run them, sound like a bunch of jokers to me .

Yes.....i did say i don't know what their plans were.......but i have seen they have done a good job with MotoX......now i think they had plans to do speedway meetings,not MotoX,so i don't know how they were going to run speedway meetings.Now you tell me where the contradiction is in those stetements that i know they are an organistation that run MotoX meetings,but don't know what there plans are for the speedway series?Did i ever say i didn't know who they were?Point it out to me please....Confused of HamburgI hate getting into conversations with people who can't read and understand!!!!

Edited February 10, 2013 by iris123

[orion 7,615]

Your belief in the SCB and BSPA is nice to see, and I'm sure that they will appreciate it.

 

So speedway riders won't get paid now, thats after there won't be any insurance and that the riders are rubbish, whats the next line of attack I wonder.

 

 

 

When did i say i had belief in the sbc or the bspa or indeed that riders would not get paid ? i said we don't know that they would ...my point is this is a crap idea that has been gone about in the wrong way .

Edited February 10, 2013 by orion