oldace 1,678 Posted May 6, 2013 That seems to be the main difficulty in working out a punishment that hurts the promotion but doesn't hurt the fans. If the match is re-staged with a full squad the BV promotion have achieved what they set out to do, if the match is awarded to Poole its the genuine BV fans that suffer. Exactly the point I made the other day. The whole scenario was invented because the Aces knew Poole would take all 4 points if the match went ahead with the riders available. If Belle Vue are allowed to re run the match and the points gained are the difference between play offs or not then they have succeeded in what they wanted. In the interests of fair play the 4 points should go to Poole and season ticket holders should get a pro rata refund. If that doesn't happen expect a few more burst water mains if a team is struggling for riders ahead of important matches 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,192 Posted May 6, 2013 If that doesn't happen expect a few more burst water mains if a team is struggling for riders ahead of important matches Or animals chewing power cables, rain on the way, or broken floodlights, or bad weather preceding the event etc, etc, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevueace 913 Posted May 6, 2013 This is a silly situation, BV should be fined and handed a points deduction, Zagar and Zetterstrom should not be allowed to ride in the re-run and no facilities should be given. Put down a marker so other clubs don't try and do the same thing! Understand what you say but if BV are punished with a points deduction and ive no problem if thats the outcome to then rerun the match with half a team and no facilities given would mean running to an empty stadium and the loss of revenue could therefore be seen as punishing the club twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted May 6, 2013 Understand what you say but if BV are punished with a points deduction and ive no problem if thats the outcome to then rerun the match with half a team and no facilities given would mean running to an empty stadium and the loss of revenue could therefore be seen as punishing the club twice. They've made their bed... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,936 Posted May 6, 2013 Understand what you say but if BV are punished with a points deduction and ive no problem if thats the outcome to then rerun the match with half a team and no facilities given would mean running to an empty stadium and the loss of revenue could therefore be seen as punishing the club twice. There lucky that they are not compensating Poole fans for petrol and travel costs, If a Poole fan decided to sue the BV promotion then no doubt they would win if the investigation finds out that the meeting was called off wrongly by the Aces promotion. Also Belle Vue should be stripped off holding any BSPA/SWC events for the next 5 years and that includes there "proposed" new stadium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luluthetiger 221 Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Also Belle Vue should be stripped off holding any BSPA/SWC events for the next 5 years and that includes there "proposed" new stadium. I can't think the FIM tracks in the UK (currently Poole, King's Lynn, Berwick and maybe Coventry, I think) are too worried about losing out to a new BV stadium being erected. Edited May 7, 2013 by luluthetiger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil The Ace 2,860 Posted May 10, 2013 It seems there will be no action against belle Vue That's what I've heard anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Little-End 4 Posted May 10, 2013 It seems there will be no action against belle Vue That's what I've heard anyway Its in tonights Evening News ............... no action being taken. Lucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kester 3,028 Posted May 10, 2013 It seems there will be no action against belle Vue That's what I've heard anyway NO WAY! I am utterly shocked to the core if this is the outcome. Note to promoters - You've now got the green light - Have some of your riders missed a flight? weakened team at home? destined for a home loss? No worries - get the bowser out and call it off - you can be confident the BSPA will do jack all about it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted May 10, 2013 Its in tonights Evening News ............... no action being taken. Lucky If that is the case then its a bleedin joke, how much lower can speedway and the powers that be stoop, they BV admitted they were wrong to call off the meeting, that is as good as admitting Liabillity. Im very sure they will get a good reception when they come to poole..... Not.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,035 Posted May 10, 2013 What a joke! Should at least get a fine! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted May 10, 2013 Standard judgement and the one we were all expecting . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikec 412 Posted May 10, 2013 Not seen the article or judgement yet, surprised though if there's no sanction against the Aces - even if only a token slap on the wrist, as no action if any wrongdoing found may set a pretty ropey precident. Unless the Aces had genuine grounds for calling it off of course? Or maybe the decision could suggest more about the state of top level speedway in the UK - and the fact that (like it or lump it) it relies on riders commuting in from Europe - & if the odd meeting bites the dust due to rider availability, then thats the reality the sport faces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agrotron 955 Posted May 10, 2013 What a p take BV should get fined and a stern talking to absolute joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSmiler 420 Posted May 10, 2013 That's disgusting, they should've been fined or deducted points at the very least. Ridiculous decision. If this was Swindon, Poole or Coventry, action would've been taken immediately. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites