LagutaRacingFan 1,948 Posted September 9, 2013 Is today's decision by the ACU another nail in the Elite League's Coffin or where there enough nails in it already? Be interesting to see what Mr Frost does in 2014. Is he the only one with integrity? I know what he's going to do and sadly for Panthers fans, It isn't good news i'm afraid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Is today's decision by the ACU another nail in the Elite League's Coffin or where there enough nails in it already? Be interesting to see what Mr Frost does in 2014. Is he the only one with integrity? The decision is the correct one. It is the intial decision that was wrong. It appears though that corruption or incompetence rife within the sport has been well and truly exposed with these events. I really look forward to hearing some of the comments of the BSPA/SCB apologists who of course revelled in informing me I was wrong over the original decision (when I said Kings Lynn had done no wrong). They're faced with choosing whether their beloved governing bodies are either a: Incompetent or b: Corrupt. Edited September 9, 2013 by BWitcher 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,948 Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) The decision is the correct one. It is the intial decision that was wrong. It appears thought that corruption rife within the sport has been well and truly exposed with these events. I really look forward to hearing some of the comments of the BSPA/SCB apologists who of course revelled in informing me I was wrong over the original decision (when I said Kings Lynn had done no wrong). They're faced with choosing whether their beloved governing bodies are either a: Incompetent or b: Corrupt. The fact that the appeal has been delayed until the Panthers had a outside chance of making the PO's and Lynn dropping points at Coventry meaning they have to win at Birmingham... It casts doubt. Edited September 9, 2013 by Hougaard Racing Fans 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leicester Hunter 381 Posted September 9, 2013 The decision is the correct one. It is the intial decision that was wrong. It appears though that corruption or incompetence rife within the sport has been well and truly exposed with these events. I really look forward to hearing some of the comments of the BSPA/SCB apologists who of course revelled in informing me I was wrong over the original decision (when I said Kings Lynn had done no wrong). They're faced with choosing whether their beloved governing bodies are either a: Incompetent or b: Corrupt. Well, I would have to say it's a and b. Because they are both. The fact that the appeal has been delayed until the Panthers had a outside chance of making the PO's and Lynn dropping points at Coventry meaning they have to win at Birmingham... It casts doubt. That's a massive understatement to say the least I know what he's going to do and sadly for Panthers fans, It isn't good news i'm afraid. If Rick Frost walks away from the sport now, who could blame him? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric i 624 Posted September 9, 2013 Idea for a new league structure next year, one big league and another small league with just Poole in it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leicester Hunter 381 Posted September 9, 2013 After the farce in Manchester tonight, there won't be one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noggin 1,393 Posted September 10, 2013 Idea for a new league structure next year, one big league and another small league with just Poole in it. Atleast they'd have a spoon for their pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crump99 4,500 Posted September 10, 2013 I know what he's going to do and sadly for Panthers fans, It isn't good news i'm afraid. But your track record of knowing stuff isn't great is it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted September 10, 2013 It seems to me that Mr Frost call it a day and who could blame him. You cannot win when Speedway is run by a Cartel for their own narrow self interest. They however may find that their behaviour comes back to bite them in the bum. In paying transfer fees for Batchelor and Sundstrom Mr Frosts injection of capital must have been a god send to the promoters concerned. Especially Swindon who received a transfer fee and now feel it quite acceptable to have the rider back for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LagutaRacingFan 1,948 Posted September 10, 2013 It seems to me that Mr Frost call it a day and who could blame him. You cannot win when Speedway is run by a Cartel for their own narrow self interest. They however may find that their behaviour comes back to bite them in the bum. In paying transfer fees for Batchelor and Sundstrom Mr Frosts injection of capital must have been a god send to the promoters concerned. Especially Swindon who received a transfer fee and now feel it quite acceptable to have the rider back for free. Agree with your point but they pay a loan fee for around 4k for a 8 point rider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldinhio 16 Posted September 11, 2013 Agree with your point but they pay a loan fee for around 4k for a 8 point rider Question is, "Did Swindon actually pay the loan fee?" . Last accounts filed at Companies House, ( they have not filed for 3 years), showed a deficit of £198,000. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miadfa8 14 Posted September 11, 2013 Lets do some maths here. Current EL GSA show 23 double up riders out of 70. So one third of the current EL riders are from the Premier League. If the Sky money goes then lets say EL riders above 8 point average cannot/will not compete next year. There are 11 such riders in the current EL GSA. So if the shortfall is all made up with PL double up riders next year that would represent half of the EL rider pool. So if you think teams had problems this year with double uppers next year could be worse! I'm sure all forum members have confidence that the BSPA will sort this out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyE 822 Posted September 12, 2013 If Mr Frost goes, I am not sure that he will be the only one. Stuart Douglas must be seriously considering his position after the events of this season: - Poole match cancelled, nothing in the regs to allow it - no action taken - Kings Lynn could not find a competent electrician at a time they were trying to strengthen their squad - the establishment combining last Monday evening to make it as hard as possible for Lakeside to progress. Does anyone seriously think that meeting would have gone ahead if the opposition had been anyone other than Poole? There are probably others but I can't be bothered. Speedway is an expensive game and if a promoter feels/believes he/she is not getting a fair crack of the whip - then why waste your money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate Nick 1,801 Posted September 12, 2013 Question is, "Did Swindon actually pay the loan fee?" . Last accounts filed at Companies House, ( they have not filed for 3 years), showed a deficit of £198,000. Interestingly a new company, Swindon Speedway 2013 ltd was incorporated on 6/9/2013, new owners? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyE 822 Posted September 12, 2013 That one is probably not in debt - yet! I fear for the creditors of the earlier company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites