speedwaysliders 176 Posted June 6, 2014 Regarding the crowd there seemed to be more people going on and off the centre green between racing.Is this part of a package/freeloaders or included in admission? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adder 94 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) Regarding the crowd there seemed to be more people going on and off the centre green between racing.Is this part of a package/freeloaders or included in admission? As far as I am aware it is only sponsors or those who have purchased the Legends Lounge package for the evening who are taken across to the centre green for a couple of heats. I assume it would impact on the public liability insurance if you were to allow people across willy nilly. Edited June 6, 2014 by Adder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) I think the Coombdog,Steve,Orion and Spikethebike are totally right,something has to change a different approach and direction.Got there last night the crowd poor,atmosphere poor and lets be honest the entertainment average at best a few races with Doyley in and the Simon pass of Bjerre that was it.The stadium looks tired dated but the thing that struck me was at times i was bored stiff.I love the sport like others on here, but we all have to get our heads out of the sand drastic changes have to be made.Steve Brum thinks things are hunky dory i admire his enthusiasm but evergreen fans are fearing the worse. Edited June 6, 2014 by sidney 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted June 6, 2014 I disagree with that statement. I don't think Doyle should have been excluded. I didn't like the move that was pulled by Doyle as he clearly took PK's line knowing that's exactly where he would be, however, he was in front and the rules as they are say the rider in front can dictate the line. Unless of course the ref is Margaret Vardy , Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 4,894 Posted June 6, 2014 As I have pointed out before, If I go to the Abbey it is as part of a night out, not just to watch the speedway and these days it has become an expensive night out. £17 admission £2.50 programme £20 cider (5 pints x £4) £20 taxi fares to and from the stadium ---------- £59.50 As I am nearly always out socialising on a Friday and Saturday as well that is an expensive hit before the weekend has even started. And that is why I, and other former regulars that I know, now have to pick and choose our meetings. Five pints in a couple of hours? I bet you miss half of the racing anyway going backwards and forwards all night to the bogs on the back straight. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) It's difficult to explain. Aces and Swindon are in a similar position with the fast track riders. Both have one good rider, Worrall and Nielsen and a second rider who has struggled. Most Aces supporters I have spoken to like the new format and crowds seem to be up whereas Swindon supporters on here seen against it and apparently crowds are down. Edited June 6, 2014 by Aces51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
van wolfswinkel 635 Posted June 6, 2014 Five pints in a couple of hours? I bet you miss half of the racing anyway going backwards and forwards all night to the bogs on the back straight. Most people are too scared to go there. Out of the roughly 1000 there probably quite a few freeloaders. Can remember freeloading for one meeting 2 years ago, courtesy of Patch, when my brother was over from Oz. There was a gert long list of names. Agree 17 quid is a lot to pay, we pick and choose meetings depending on weather and opposition, would get bored going every week anyway. Must be losing a lot of money as crowds tumble, would have been around 1500 a few years ago. Was a display full of fight and character from the depleted Robins that should see them moving up the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted June 6, 2014 (edited) It's difficult to explain. Aces and Swindon are in a similar position with the fast track riders. Both have one good rider, Worrall and Nielsen and a second rider who has struggled. Most Aces supporters I have spoken to like the new format and crowds seem to be up whereas Swindon supporters on here seen against it and apparently crowds are down. Don't think it's really that ..the Moment Leigh Adams left the crowds dropped and have never pick up bar the odd match since ...The crowds being poor have not just been this season . Not sure we will see a rider that would have such an effect on a club as Adams had . Edited June 7, 2014 by orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratton 1,491 Posted June 6, 2014 Don't think it's really that ..the Moment Leigh Adams left the crowds dropped and have never pick up bar the odd match since ...The crowds being have not just been this season . Not sure we will see a rider that would have such an effect on a club as Adams had . Cant disagree with that,Swindon have been so lucky Briggs,Ashby, Crump senior and Leigh sod the team you would go just to watch them everyweek.Even Kilby was top notch for long periods and we see the classy Autrey for one season we were so fortunate i believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted June 7, 2014 It's difficult to explain. Aces and Swindon are in a similar position with the fast track riders. Both have one good rider, Worrall and Nielsen and a second rider who has struggled. Most Aces supporters I have spoken to like the new format and crowds seem to be up whereas Swindon supporters on here seen against it and apparently crowds are down. I think the difference is that BV are on their way up after a few years in the wilderness, while Swindon are on their way down after several seasons of being championship contenders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluTiger 21,701 Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) I think the difference is that BV are on their way up after a few years in the wilderness, while Swindon are on their way down after several seasons of being championship contenders. Are they ? Still look poor IMO. The Robins will be in the mix come play off time.. Edited June 7, 2014 by blupanther Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted June 7, 2014 Are they ? Still look poor IMO. The Robins will be in the mix come play off time.. Fair point, but it's all relative. BV teams of the the past five years have been absolutely terrible, at least this one shows a little bit of ambition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aces51 2,778 Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) I can see that both the Aces potentially having a better season than recent years and the loss of the irreplaceable Leigh Adams could explain the crowd levels. However, that doesn't explain the dislike by many Swindon fans of the fast track system. Speaking to fans at Belle Vue what many like about the new system is seeing British NL riders given an opportunity to progress and the new format, which provides more races involving riders of similar ability. It will be interesting to see if that attitude changes following our poor away form and a number of matches where our reserves have been heavily outscored by their opposite numbers. Edited June 7, 2014 by Aces51 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMW 533 Posted June 7, 2014 (edited) I can see that both the Aces potentially having a better season than recent years and the loss of the irreplaceable Leigh Adams could explain the crowd levels. However, that doesn't explain the dislike by many Swindon fans of the fast track system. Speaking to fans at Belle Vue what many like about the new system is seeing British NL riders given an opportunity to progress and the new format, which provides more races involving riders of similar ability. It will be interesting to see if that attitude changes following our poor away form and a number of matches where our reserves have been heavily outscored by their opposite numbers. If Aces fans had shown the Colts a bit more support then you would have your own home grown belting reserves this year. I don't know who out of the current crop would be BV assets but Steve and Graham do a fantastic unsung job with the youngsrers up there but the yiungsters have to see possibilties of progession which the draft will give them sadly otherwise they will go elsewhere Edited June 7, 2014 by TMW 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
van wolfswinkel 635 Posted June 7, 2014 Cant disagree with that,Swindon have been so lucky Briggs,Ashby, Crump senior and Leigh sod the team you would go just to watch them everyweek.Even Kilby was top notch for long periods and we see the classy Autrey for one season we were so fortunate i believe. You forgot Leonard Raba...he really was rabbish Agree since Leigh went the crowds have gone down, perhaps they lost a few hundred last year when riders weren't trying because of non-payment. If Poole are there on a warm summer's evening a big crowd is guaranteed. The riders you mentioned were Swindon through and through, and they don't appear to have a top rider like that now who the crowd can warm to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites