wilsonpaul198 10 Posted June 24, 2014 How do we improve the set up of British speedway?? Surely we cannot continue to race across 5 nights per week. We want the best riders all of the time not some of the time. Sat meeting at Leicester v Swindon was a joke!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted June 25, 2014 A problem with the one night fits all Speedway clubs is that it won't....... Dogs, Stock Cars, Rugby, Football, Bangers are all present at some clubs, so that's not a straightforward option, absolutely tons of ground work will need doing before that could ever be considered..... You only need a track or two with dog racing (landlords) to decide to change or add a race meeting and it'll all fall apart.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted June 25, 2014 Surely you could do it twice a week.... say a Monday and Thursday so doesn't clash (as much) with foreign leagues? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,968 Posted June 25, 2014 Surely you could do it twice a week.... say a Monday and Thursday so doesn't clash (as much) with foreign leagues? What when Poole & Kings Lynn ride on Wednesday's & they are the biggest 2 teams in British speedway. Well that is apart from having your heat leaders as asetts at Kings Lynn of course 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted June 25, 2014 This problem should have been sorted long ago. I appreciate the issues with greyhound landlords, but surely a compromise could be reached. After all, the landlords wouldn't want to lose the out on the rent implications. I believe there are quite a few problems with the way our sport is governed but racing every night of the week is the biggest one. The other major countries run on specific days and we have to fall in line. We are forever moaning about the lack of top riders over here. If we get the schedule sorted, more riders would come on board...... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nobblytriers 201 Posted June 25, 2014 Could we put all of the premier and elite teams together, and then form two leagues of roughly equal numbers with promotion and relegation? The top division could have one top rider (current elite?) per team. I say that because todays Elite isn't really that elite is it? Alot of top riders don't ride here anyway so there's not that many to go round. No doubling up/down of riders for both leagues. Have a third league, todays NL, and allow doubling up/down between that and League two. Have two fixed race nights and use those to ride weekly at home and away. Scrap the current tacticle rule. Watching the Swedish league last night was far better with the old style T/R rule in my opinion. 6 points down and put in anyone you want but each rider can only have one T/R ride per meeting. No T/R's in the reserves race. Get the riders out for each race as the last one finishes and stop them going back to the pits after tape infringements. Keep it moving. I'm not sure about extreme type presentation like some are saying the sport needs. If you go too far you might loose as many as you might gain. Just make the facilities presentable, the refreshments value for money, the breaks interesting and the racing entertaining. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Panda 366 Posted June 25, 2014 To be fair there are a lot of teams that cannot race on any other day than what they do now on a regular basis due to restrictions imposed by the local authorities................. What is really needed and I have said this loads of times is for promoters to get out and do what they are there to do and that is promote and not just sit on their backsides expecting the world to come to them............... Get out into the community and talk to the people............make it a night of entertainment instead of just 15 heats...........get the powers to be to be forward thinking instead of living in the past...........may be even have an independent body to run the sport.............. Whatever happens something needs to be done and fast............ RP 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted June 25, 2014 To be fair there are a lot of teams that cannot race on any other day than what they do now on a regular basis due to restrictions imposed by the local authorities................. Are there really though? I've heard this anecdotally, but has anyone actually researched which clubs simply cannot ride on certain nights due to clashes or planning restrictions? I think it should either be: Elite - Wednesday and Thursday Premier - Friday and Saturday National - Tuesday and Sunday or bite the bullet and have one large Premier League split on a regional basis with a North v South play-off for the league title. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted June 25, 2014 What when Poole & Kings Lynn ride on Wednesday's & they are the biggest 2 teams in British speedway. Well that is apart from having your heat leaders as asetts at Kings Lynn of course can you explain how k.lynn are the biggest team in british speedway? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,968 Posted June 25, 2014 can you explain how k.lynn are the biggest team in british speedway? They own their own stadium for starters which not many others so that makes them a big club. It was a bit tongue in cheek really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted June 25, 2014 They own their own stadium for starters which not many others so that makes them a big club. It was a bit tongue in cheek really. no probs, just thort it bit funny as k.lynn never won title Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,833 Posted June 25, 2014 Surely you could do it twice a week.... say a Monday and Thursday so doesn't clash (as much) with foreign leagues? If we want the top boys back and a really meaningful EL then we have to fall in line with Sweden/Poland/Denmark. Not that it will happen as most promotions are only interested in their own needs first and foremost. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverstars 0 Posted June 25, 2014 Lynn may not be the biggest team but we and Poole are probably amongst the best run clubs with regards to operating on a sound financial basis with solid support(except when its on sky).Also we have a great track which is well prepared every week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shale Searcher 1,264 Posted June 26, 2014 If we want the top boys back and a really meaningful EL then we have to fall in line with Sweden/Poland/Denmark. Not that it will happen as most promotions are only interested in their own needs first and foremost. If we want the top boys back, we have to pay top boy dollar as well, so you have to have decent crowd numbers at a reasonable admission fee, or small crowd and high admission fee.. At the moment with the admission fees as they are, there's not enough full adult paying fans to support more than 1 maybe 2 too riders, except for the likes of Poole, Kings Lynn and maybe Coventry and Leicester. To pay 50 points to a home team, with 3 top dollar boys, 2 second strings and 2 fast track reserves, what's the cost? True cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,833 Posted June 26, 2014 If we want the top boys back, we have to pay top boy dollar as well, so you have to have decent crowd numbers at a reasonable admission fee, or small crowd and high admission fee.. At the moment with the admission fees as they are, there's not enough full adult paying fans to support more than 1 maybe 2 too riders, except for the likes of Poole, Kings Lynn and maybe Coventry and Leicester. To pay 50 points to a home team, with 3 top dollar boys, 2 second strings and 2 fast track reserves, what's the cost? True cost? Prices have gone up with inflation which is in stark contrast to EL teams going weaker. I don't think its rocket science to suggest that bringing back the top boys will help increase numbers on the terraces as that is what a lot of the stay aways have been saying they want to happen. I don't think promoters dare ask fans to pay more than they are now, not for the reduced standard and quality of the teams. However by looking at the bigger picture surely the promoters can see same night racing + big stars back = bigger attendances?? Will it cost more?? Probably but if that is the price needed to tempt people back to watching on the terraces then it surely is worth pushing for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
