therefused 819 Posted August 20, 2015 Was someone having a pop at Garrity last night as the cameras were on him walking down the pits when excluded and all I heard is he was shouting to them I am a man or something like that he got in the face of more than one person walking through the pits. The guy is an idiot 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted August 20, 2015 Was someone having a pop at Garrity last night as the cameras were on him walking down the pits when excluded and all I heard is he was shouting to them I am a man or something like that Yes, report on Twitter by several people that king's Lynn fans were swearing and shouting abuse at him. One said he was gonna knock him out. That might be the one he was shouting back at. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) garrity is young, much to learn , but morris left him nowhere to go but inside , and there was only a slight contact , garrity didnt deliberately knock him off he went for a gap look at the play off in 2010 when harris gets knocked off and rode over, holder wiped harris's front wheel , yet it was all 4 back...... (but then again not many decisions go against poole at wimpborne road) Edited August 20, 2015 by heathen chemistry 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therefused 819 Posted August 20, 2015 Yes, report on Twitter by several people that king's Lynn fans were swearing and shouting abuse at him. One said he was gonna knock him out. That might be the one he was shouting back at. before heat 15 garrity said to Horton "I'll drop everyone of them". Not really the behaviour of a professional sportsman is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CB252 1,376 Posted August 20, 2015 Boo hoo, Garrity shouting at a couple of toothless simpletons on the first bend at Saddlebore Road. Hardly the end of the world. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted August 20, 2015 And people complain there are no characters left. Say what you like about Jason, never a dull moment when he's around! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,666 Posted August 20, 2015 I'm gonna have a go at what I think may have been the referees logic and it kind of makes sense. Referee deemed Sarjeant had jumped the start but hadn't gained an advantage as he's 15m back. Garrity causes a crash on 1st turn and as the cause of the stoppage is excluded. As Sarjeant had jumped the start and Garrity now excluded Sarjeant has gained an advantage from his 2nd offence so also gets excluded. As I said, that could be the thought process of the referee and it does make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedibee 3,091 Posted August 20, 2015 garrity is young, much to learn , but morris left him nowhere to go but inside , and there was only a slight contact , garrity didnt deliberately knock him off he went for a gap look at the play off in 2010 when harris gets knocked off and rode over, holder wiped harris's front wheel , yet it was all 4 back...... (but then again not many decisions go against poole at wimpborne road) And it was deliberate I'm gonna have a go at what I think may have been the referees logic and it kind of makes sense. Referee deemed Sarjeant had jumped the start but hadn't gained an advantage as he's 15m back. Garrity causes a crash on 1st turn and as the cause of the stoppage is excluded. As Sarjeant had jumped the start and Garrity now excluded Sarjeant has gained an advantage from his 2nd offence so also gets excluded. As I said, that could be the thought process of the referee and it does make sense. Referee----- Thought process ? what you on. I'll have some:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob VDS 101 Posted August 20, 2015 And it was deliberate Really? How do you know it was deliberate? Or are you stating an opinion? Big difference between facts and you stating your opinion you know 👍 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoFastTurnLeft 74 Posted August 20, 2015 garrity is young, much to learn , but morris left him nowhere to go but inside , and there was only a slight contact , garrity didnt deliberately knock him off he went for a gap look at the play off in 2010 when harris gets knocked off and rode over, holder wiped harris's front wheel , yet it was all 4 back...... (but then again not many decisions go against poole at wimpborne road) You've clearly not been there on a Christina Turnbull night. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted August 20, 2015 And people complain there are no characters left. Say what you like about Jason, never a dull moment when he's around! Hmm, don't we know it !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,824 Posted August 20, 2015 Is there a referees report per match,where a ref has to say what actions he takes during heats? Yes there is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heathen chemistry 660 Posted August 20, 2015 well having ronnie allen as a ref is totally wrong imo its like mourinho's brother reffin a man u match ... sarj didnt move before taped video proved it , so ref was wrong , and the garrity incident most times that would be all 4 back , well having ronnie allen as a ref is totally wrong imo its like mourinho's brother reffin a man u match ... sarj didnt move before taped video proved it , so ref was wrong , and the garrity incident most times that would be all 4 back , seems conspiracy theorists would say its a plan to get poole finish top wonder if it was ronnie russell that had a word with the ref and said sarj moved? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon Hammer 576 Posted August 21, 2015 There's an interesting slow mo video going around from behind Sarj in heat 12. In it, you can see that Sarj has not moved until the tapes start going up. However, it is also clear that he has started moving when the tapes are still at wheel height for the other 3 riders who are still motionless. Therefore, it would appear that he has gained a small advantage over the others. Maybe the ref had access to this angle / speed. I will try and post it on here but don't hold your breath, I'm not very technical! https://mobile.twitter.com/keithski24/status/634111717501444096 Sarjeant definitely anticipated the start, as you need to take into account his reaction time, which would've been an impossible zero in this instance Personally, although I find it annoying, I'm all in favour of referees re-running a race when a rider anticipates or rolls at the start If a rider has tough opponents or a tough gate position, then the risk is minimal. If ignored, those who play fair or have more to lose are penalised Reckon referees should give a warning for a 1st offence & 15m for the second. I find it annoying when they re-run an unsatisfactory start and don't warn anyone: inevitably the same rider will try it again at some point during the meeting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
