full-throttle 182 Posted September 15, 2015 the same as Poland and Denmark, one race night per week, discussion closed 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iand 133 Posted September 15, 2015 Poland Elite League always on a Sunday only 8 teams. 14 league matches. Sweden Elite League always on a Tuesday only 7 teams, 12 league matches. compare that to Britain 8 teams 28 matches race night Mon,Wed,Fri and Sat. We have too many fixtures over too many race nights,somehow we have got to reduce the amount of matches in a season to entice the bigger names over and reduce the amount of race nights to 2 at the most. If teams don't like it go down to the Premier. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted September 15, 2015 one race night in the UK would never happen as most stadium owners don't give speedway promotors a choice, also Leicester who own there stadium only want to race Saturday's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted September 15, 2015 Ok, I understand that Poland has the capability to attract the best riders to compete in their leagues, but what is it that Sweden has over the UK elite. I look tonight at the play off in Sweden and the calibre of number 1, 3 & 5's plus some decent reserves too and realise how mugged off the speedway supporting fans of the UK are being treated. A serious issue that needs to be addressed. We got an almost certain "British" world champion again that chooses to ride outside of his "native" land. We got a 2nd in the titlle hunt who chooses to wear his U.S. colours anywhere but the UK, plus an ageing Danish star who lives "down the road" but avoids showing his face at a UK circuit. what is it so wrong with the UK speedway scene ? Money, taxes or earnings potential in general ? What needs to happen to bring them back ? Would be good to understand the reasons from a decent riders point of view especially. MONEY (one rider told me he probably earns three times as much in Sweden than in England)... easier just to commute between Poland and Sweden without having to fly in and out of the UK as well as keeping bikes here ... tracks (so much better to ride than most in England)... permanent race nights... just for starters 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) this "better tracks" comment that rears its head again? pre grand prix did the best riders ever come up with that argument? did ole olsen, ivan mauger, barry briggs ever dodge Britain? it may well come down to money, but iwont be convinced about the tracks! Edited September 15, 2015 by ColinMills 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) And to many GP's. Why should the top boys come to the UK for a pittance compared to what they can earn in Poland Sweden and on the GP circuit. I said years ago, the GP 's will be the killing of British speedway. Edited September 15, 2015 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted September 15, 2015 MONEY (one rider told me he probably earns three times as much in Sweden than in England)... easier just to commute between Poland and Sweden without having to fly in and out of the UK as well as keeping bikes here ... tracks (so much better to ride than most in England)... permanent race nights... just for starters Spot on with the just for starters lol uk speedway is a real mess. this "better tracks" comment that rears its head again? pre grand prix did the best riders ever come up with that argument? did ole olsen, ivan mauger, barry briggs ever dodge Britain? it may well come down to money, but iwont be convinced about the tracks! Tracks have got worse in the UK over the years compared to those abroad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) Spot on with the just for starters lol uk speedway is a real mess. Tracks have got worse in the UK over the years compared to those abroad. Because a lot of tracks will not buy PROPER shale..And unless you do, it doesn't bind properly, thats when you get your holes. Edited September 15, 2015 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted September 15, 2015 Spot on with the just for starters lol uk speedway is a real mess. Tracks have got worse in the UK over the years compared to those abroad. how has a track got worse?....whats different to wimbourne road as to say 4 years ago?....you suggesting some of the man made gp circuits are better than our tracks?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted September 15, 2015 Because a lot of tracks will not buy PROPER shale.. A lot of tracks don't buy enough shale too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted September 15, 2015 how has a track got worse?....whats different to wimbourne road as to say 4 years ago?. We've got PROPER shale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Game On 1,117 Posted September 15, 2015 And to many GP's. Why should the top boys come to the UK for a pittance compared to what they can earn in Poland Sweden and on the GP circuit. I said years ago, the GP 's will be the killing of British speedway.Only the top 8 make any money in the GP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted September 15, 2015 Only the top 8 make any money in the GP So why do the rest bother ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Game On 1,117 Posted September 15, 2015 We've got PROPER shale.Only this year then, as the last couple of years there have been more than a few holes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,355 Posted September 15, 2015 Only this year then, as the last couple of years there have been more than a few holes Nope, and last year, but its taken a long time to build it up again. You cannot just dump it on. Its still not where we want it. But its now riding a lot lot better, as the old stuff is turning over and the new stuff is bedding in. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
