kingbee 510 Posted November 20, 2015 A great deal of thought went into this revision, the following information from the highly respected IFS may be of interest: The current generation of pensioners is better off than ever before, and for the first time have incomes higher on average than the rest of the population, the director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) Paul Johnson will say in giving the inaugural Pensions Management Institute annual lecture later today (18.30 Tuesday 20 Oct 2015). Johnson will set out how modelling by IFS researchers suggests that pensioners’ incomes will continue to rise for at least the next decade. However, it is unlikely that later generations will do as well. Future state pensions will be less generous on average, there has been an extraordinary fall in rates of home ownership, and, in the private sector, a collapse in membership of defined benefit occupational pension schemes. Younger generations are also likely bearing some of the cost of these generous occupational pension schemes from which they themselves will never benefit. Johnson will also use his lecture to outline some policy priorities for making state and private pensions more stable and sustainable, for example ending the so called triple lock on the state pension and bringing stability to the taxation of private pensions. Drawing on work by IFS researchers, Johnson will show how: Pensioners now have higher incomes on average than the rest of the population, once housing costs and family composition are taken into account. Pensioners’ incomes have continued to rise post-recession as the incomes of working-age households have fallen.. (Cont). No doubt there will be individuals who don't fit this general view, but our view is that a concessionary rate for seniors is no longer appropriate. We have however made a much bigger investment in making speedway more affordable for families and juniors, and the majority of the feedback I have had so far supports this action. So as long as someone produces proof that they are in education in school/college/uni they get in for £5.00 no age limit there's a lot of people that could fit that criteria Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 20, 2015 In the light of the clubs current feeling towards wealthy OAP's , could do worse than persuade Ole Olsen to come out of retirement. He could afford to ride for nothing. So as long as someone produces proof that they are in education in school/college/uni they get in for £5.00 no age limit there's a lot of people that could fit that criteria Suggest OAP's enrol in evening classes!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,835 Posted November 20, 2015 And some of them don't. And some "adults" probably "deserve" a discount too if having been to war is "deserving" of a discount. If fighting for your country isn't 'deserving' then I don't know what is but like you say the poor poor U35's have it so hard these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 3,114 Posted November 20, 2015 In the light of the clubs current feeling towards wealthy OAP's , could do worse than persuade Ole Olsen to come out of retirement. He could afford to ride for nothing. Suggest OAP's enrol in evening classes!!!! It only applies to those in full time education... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeilWatson 1,995 Posted November 20, 2015 So as long as someone produces proof that they are in education in school/college/uni they get in for £5.00 no age limit there's a lot of people that could fit that criteria Full-time education confirmed by the institution, night-school or flower-arranging classes don't count! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 20, 2015 Full-time education confirmed by the institution, night-school or flower-arranging classes don't count! What a blow OAP's could have got to college cheaply using their bus passes!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Clemens 646 Posted November 20, 2015 How many OAPs do you think fought for this country? I think what they meant to say, Shaun, was, How many OAPs do you think 'thought' for this country? They thought , when they were paying their 'dues and demands' all their working life they would receive 'the benefits' they were paying for, in their old age. The fact that they have been told 'well you might think that but you're not going to get them anyway', might be the reason they feel a bit 'miffed' about the situation. The same reason they might feel 'miffed' about paying full price to see their speedway. But, as we all know, life's a bitch innit, then you die!!! Not soon enough for OAPS, some might think. That's the reason I think TWK started the 'Oldest contributors to this Forum' thread, so we could all be named and aged, then be ejected from stadiums, all for the good of speedway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted November 20, 2015 Last at war when? Weren't we at war in 1982 in the Falklands? And what about the Iraq invasion in 1990/91? There are certainly some OAP's amongst those who fought got their country in those wars. And those that are now at Pensionable age, if they havn't got to slog it out untill they are 70. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacques 3,114 Posted November 20, 2015 What a blow OAP's could have got to college cheaply using their bus passes!!!! You have to pay for classes anyway, so you're not really giving a valid option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnglishRoundabout 1,752 Posted November 20, 2015 How many people did we send to the Falklands and Iraq? And a lot of them will still be adults rather than OAPs. If we want to give our armed forces a discount then have an armed forces discount like the Americans do. Don't give ALL OAPs a discount because some people went to war. I'm not saying we should kill all old people, or they should be locked away. I'm just questioning why they get a discount. I just want them to pay the same as everyone else. I could understand if we all had so much money giving them a discount but we don't. We're a country that while not in recession is not in good shape so rather than discounting OAPs passtimes should they not be paying the same as everyone else? We sent around 25,000 to the Falklands and at least double that many to Iraq. A lot of them may not be OAP's but a fair few will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BANANAMAN 330 Posted November 20, 2015 NeilWatson, on 20 Nov 2015 - 3:20 PM, said:Full-time education confirmed by the institution, night-school or flower-arranging classes don't count! Ha Ha .. Neil that's just anthophobic what have you got against flower arrangers ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 20, 2015 You have to pay for classes anyway, so you're not really giving a valid option Sorry I thought they got everything for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted November 20, 2015 The man with the little black book is scanning the thread, i'l wait for his next little gem with baited breath... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 15 Posted November 20, 2015 We sent around 25,000 to the Falklands and at least double that many to Iraq. A lot of them may not be OAP's but a fair few will be. So we sent about 1 in every 800 people to the Falklands and Iraq. So if a clubs gets 1600 paying fans, 2 of them went. So to make sure they get a discount, the 50% of OAPs (so about 800 if our crowds is 1600) must all get a discount to catch them two people? Bit extreme Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,356 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) So we sent about 1 in every 800 people to the Falklands and Iraq. So if a clubs gets 1600 paying fans, 2 of them went. So to make sure they get a discount, the 50% of OAPs (so about 800 if our crowds is 1600) must all get a discount to catch them two people? Bit extreme Yr crowds 1600 , you really are deluded. If you get 800 your doing well. Good to alienate pensioners init... Edited November 20, 2015 by Starman2006 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
