BWitcher 12,453 Posted October 7, 2015 Any chance of a list of sports in answer to my question? Perhaps if you would clarify your question it might get a better response. The anti-playoff brigade want the league title to be one title and a totally separate one for the playoffs. In wanting this they believe the league title would carry more credence. On that basis, there aren't any sports who do that. However, those sports who dish out a trophy to the league winners, but it doesn't really mean anything as the winners of the playoffs are what its all about then you have. Rugby Union Rugby League NFL MLB NBA NHL Darts Australian Rules Cricket I'm sure there are more too. You'd find it much easier to compile a list of team sports that DON'T have playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPNY 608 Posted October 7, 2015 Yes ..the rounds were bringing no crowds in so thats why is was it was binned ..I can see it now ... Lakeside v leics at Swindon in front of a massive crowd lol But that's a scenario that wouldn't happen unless they were total idiots, If it was Lakeside v Leic it would be held at say Peterborough. On a weekend. Or if Wolves and Coventry at Perry Barr. If you think that would bring no crowd. Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted October 7, 2015 totally agree,as someone who saw a side win 5 ko cups, I can assure you these "tin pot cups" did work 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 7, 2015 Cheer up When did cricket change? I'm pretty sure Yorkshire finished top of the league and were crowned champions this year. When the indian 20 /20 cricket started the biggest and best league in the whole world with massive crowds and awash with money and sponsors ..not quite as good as the county championship with it's 300 fans per match I grant you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted October 7, 2015 totally agree,as someone who saw a side win 5 ko cups, I can assure you these "tin pot cups" did work VHS worked well for years too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 7, 2015 But that's a scenario that wouldn't happen unless they were total idiots, If it was Lakeside v Leic it would be held at say Peterborough. On a weekend. Or if Wolves and Coventry at Perry Barr. If you think that would bring no crowd. Well we'll just have to agree to disagree. Yea there would hold up's on the motorway if it was at Peterborough Sadly as I said fans very rarely travel away in numbers these days making your idea a non starter . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted October 7, 2015 VHS worked well for years too.I guess your team never made the finals??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldace 1,678 Posted October 7, 2015 totally agree,as someone who saw a side win 5 ko cups, I can assure you these "tin pot cups" did work So why then do you think the KO cup fell by the wayside. Was it maybe because crowds were so huge there were major concerns for their safety. Could it have been there was so much cash coming through the turnstiles that they couldn't fit it in the car boot. Or could there be another reason. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted October 7, 2015 derrrr, the league is a massive flop, ave 700 a week at most venues, league cup is a flop, in fact the whole sport in England is a flop. the ONLY success crowd wise IS the play offs, so do we just hold 2 games a year??? we just give up "promoting" the sport and throw away cup comps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RPNY 608 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Yea there would hold up's on the motorway if it was at Peterborough Sadly as I said fans very rarely travel away in numbers these days making your idea a non starter . Your opinion, I will politely disagree sir. Edited October 7, 2015 by PNYC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted October 7, 2015 I can only speak by experience,i have witnessed "5" koc finals, they have ALL been well supported with away crowds as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humphrey Appleby 13,960 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) However, those sports who dish out a trophy to the league winners, but it doesn't really mean anything as the winners of the playoffs are what its all about then you have. I think the American and National Leagues are still generally considered worth winning in their own right, even if the big prize is the World Series. The Stanley Cup has a more interesting background as it was historically a challenge cup that teams from different leagues could play off for, subject to the approval of the trustees of the cup. As such, I don't think it technically belongs to the NHL and as such other leagues could challenge for it, although there are now none of sufficient standard so it's not happened for years. Australian Rules Aussie Rules has the best playoff system, whether it be the Final Four, Final Five or Final Eight system currently used (the Final Six system used for a while was rubbish though). Finishing higher in the league table (although it's not a full home-and-away round robin) gives more advantages to those sides - whether home advantage, bye or double chance. Edited October 7, 2015 by Humphrey Appleby Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vincent Blachshadow 2,937 Posted October 7, 2015 So why then do you think the KO cup fell by the wayside. Was it maybe because crowds were so huge there were major concerns for their safety. Could it have been there was so much cash coming through the turnstiles that they couldn't fit it in the car boot. Or could there be another reason. Wasn't that the competition that introduced the farcical match-race option for a team so many points behind? I can't remember exactly because I stopped going when they turned it from a meaningful competition to a Mickey Mouse one. Ah, that could be the 'another reason' you're looking for. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted October 7, 2015 Wasn't that the competition that introduced the farcical match-race option for a team so many points behind? I can't remember exactly because I stopped going when they turned it from a meaningful competition to a Mickey Mouse one. Ah, that could be the 'another reason' you're looking for. The reason they brought it in was to try to save it as was already a dead duck ..so not the reason your looking for . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted October 7, 2015 what koc final flopped crowd wise please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
