dantodan 314 Posted November 30, 2015 I run the website http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk Which has a page in the A-Z featuring an attempt to bring speedway to Carlisle. The track was in Moorville Park, Kingmoor, Carlisle, in Cumbria and operated only once in 1937 The Stobbart brothers (Rol and Maurice), built a 440 yard circuit near their home in Cumbria they hoped to introduce speedway to Carlisle but unfortunately it never came to fruition. There was only one meeting held here. It was staged on 18th September 1937. The winner of this meeting was Liverpool's Tommy Price. Perhaps your dad or grandad was there! It was only 78 yrs ago!! Perhaps the local newspaper covered the meeting and you are looking for something speedway related to do this winter. A visit to your local newspaper archive may turn up a photo or newspaper article so if you have the time and the interest please see if you can help me obtain something I can put on the website Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted November 30, 2015 only 78 years ago eh . still we waited 79 years to get our hands on the Davis cup in tennis . got me interested now. good luck on your adventure into carlisle speedway . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 908 Posted November 30, 2015 were you not there jenga im sure your old enough to remember it well ha ha 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HertsRacer 222 Posted November 30, 2015 John 1937 was not the first attempt to introduce speedway to Carlisle. If you can find s copy of "Speedway in the North-West" by Adrian Pavey, there is a chapter, along with some pictures, on the history of the sport in Carlisle, which might be of interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted November 30, 2015 were you not there jenga im sure your old enough to remember it well ha ha i think you were standing in front of me with your flasher mac and trilby on .lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 30, 2015 i think you were standing in front of me with your flasher mac and trilby on .lol Nothing wrong with Raincoats and Trilbys jenga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted November 30, 2015 er, don't know how to reply to that . but i will play safe and say they keep you warm and dry .lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The White Knight 9,039 Posted November 30, 2015 er, don't know how to reply to that . but i will play safe and say they keep you warm and dry .lol They do indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
22A 3 Posted November 30, 2015 I found a link to an unofficial site referring to 1928 stating how speedway and greyhound racing shared the circuit. http://www.greyhoundderby.com/Carlisle%20speedway.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolcol 57 Posted December 1, 2015 er, don't know how to reply to that . but i will play safe and say they keep you warm and dry .lol lol lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted December 1, 2015 I run the website http://www.defunctspeedway.co.uk Which has a page in the A-Z featuring an attempt to bring speedway to Carlisle. The track was in Moorville Park, Kingmoor, Carlisle, in Cumbria and operated only once in 1937 The Stobbart brothers (Rol and Maurice), built a 440 yard circuit near their home in Cumbria they hoped to introduce speedway to Carlisle but unfortunately it never came to fruition. There was only one meeting held here. It was staged on 18th September 1937. The winner of this meeting was Liverpool's Tommy Price. Perhaps your dad or grandad was there! It was only 78 yrs ago!! Perhaps the local newspaper covered the meeting and you are looking for something speedway related to do this winter. A visit to your local newspaper archive may turn up a photo or newspaper article so if you have the time and the interest please see if you can help me obtain something I can put on the website Hi John, the man that might be able to help you is John Somerville, i'm pretty sure he as a programme of that meeting. Regards Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HertsRacer 222 Posted December 1, 2015 John I have now dug out Adrian Pavey's book, and this is an abridged version of his description of the meeting. "It seemed the people of Carlisle were just not interested in speedway with the crowd being less than 700. It was an individual meeting featuring competitors from the Workington track and several members of the Belle Vue "Merseysiders" team. The two main events were a scratch race and a handicap trophy, supported by a series of match races and novice events. The first event was the scratch races. Heat 1 was won by Eric Butler ahead of West Ham novice Ken Tidbury, Heat 2 was won by Alan Butler ahead of another West Ham novice Denny "Crusty" Pye. Former Preston rider Tommy Price won heat 3 from Norman Hargreaves, with Dennis Dennie third. The 1st Semi-Final was won by Eric Butler, followed by Alan Butler and Ken Tidbury. The 2nd Semi-Final was won by Tommy Price with Norman Hargraves second and "Crusty" Pye third. The Final was won by Price with Hargreaves second and Eric Butler third. The second event was the handicap competition. Heat 1 Hargreaves from Tidbury with Price third. Heat 2 Sam Marsland from Alan Butler Heat 3 Maurice Stobbart from Eric Butler and Dennis Dennie 1st Semi-Final Marsland from Hargreaves and Tidbury 2nd Semi-Final won by Alan Butler Final Won by Alan Butler after Stobbart, Hargreaves and Marsland all suffered engine failures. In 2 lap rolling start match races Stobbart beat Alan Butler, Price beat Marsland and Hargreaves beat Charlie Oates. Following the meeting all the riders travelled to Lonsdale Park, Workington to take part in a challenge match between Workington "Reds" and Belle Vue "Merseysiders". The Carlisle project was a financial disaster with organiser Maurice Stobbart admitting that his efforts at promoting were not exactly prosperous." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted December 1, 2015 i think a lot of todays pl promoters would be happy with 700 paying fans @ todays prices . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 908 Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) John 1937 was not the first attempt to introduce speedway to Carlisle. If you can find s copy of "Speedway in the North-West" by Adrian Pavey, there is a chapter, along with some pictures, on the history of the sport in Carlisle, which might be of interest. good lad is adrian im sure he still has a copy or 2 at home Edited December 1, 2015 by scarra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted December 1, 2015 did michael moon's book shop in whitehaven have this book in stock. i am sure when i passed the shop a long time ago , it was in the window. worth a try ,email, phone .i pass that way on friday , i will have a gander in . something like that is not on everybody's reading list . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites