orion 7,619 Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Just had a quick look at this thread and I can't say I'm that surprised about Swindon cheating again. All sorts went on last season, first with dodgy guests and then rossiter admitting on TV they only lost meetings to get ward in. It didn't take long for the cheating to start again this season pulling the underperforming tungate after 2 rides on Thursday claiming he wasn't fit when he completed all his programmed rides the following night. What I am surprised about though is the reaction of the Swindon fans. Last season Zagar wasn't available for Belle Vue after a big crash on TV (ie the injury wasn't fictitious like tungate) and had several 'bags' of blood drawn off yet some Swindon fans were up in arms, coming out with all sorts and trying to take the moral high ground, onion was particularly noisy. Not much high ground being taken over tungate, more like back in the gutter again. #typicalswindonagain If tungate rides elsewhere while missing Swindon matches in the next few weeks then you may have a point ....Zagar rode elsewhere while missing Belle vue matches so him having bags of blood never seem to effect him come gp time ...my point always been the same either your fit to ride or your not ..in Zargar case he choose to decide when he was fit . Edited June 5, 2016 by orion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevethelion 192 Posted June 5, 2016 Doyle should of been excluded in heat 3 and it was an awful decision by the ref that cost Leicester. It was clear Doyle return was not a welcome back by the lions fans and it looked like he got angry with sections of the crowd. The meeting was good and a bigger crowd, I thought I saw tungate on the victory parade. Swindon use of R/R at Leicester won the match. What happened to Doyle saying he would never ride for Swindon or rosco again ? I was right next to the incident on bend 4. Summers who was leading started to go out of shape , Doyle laid down his bike because he thought Summers was going to fall, although he recovered & didn't go down, his actions caused the race to be stopped , so IMO the ref got the decision spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTFC LION 163 Posted June 5, 2016 I can see that going down very well at BL police station, I'm sure they would dispatch a number of officers to the incident straight away. I do not think they would send anyone. But if reported they have to follow it up, says so in the law. Go check it out, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted June 5, 2016 So now we gave a Leicester fan threatening to go to the police because Doyle gestured the crowd. For Heaven's sake!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justathought 374 Posted June 5, 2016 I do not think they would send anyone. But if reported they have to follow it up, says so in the law. Go check it out, Thanks for your advice. However, I have more pressing matters to deal with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbobee 144 Posted June 5, 2016 Attended this meeting as a neutral last night and it seems to me there were a few points in answer ... 1. Referee was correct in that Summers locked up in front of Doyle causing Doyle to fall - no contact however - so 50/50 call - still probably the right exclusion. 2. Doyle got some pantomine booing at first but then showed himself up by gesturing to the crowd - especially so to one individual on the back straight who gave hime a few mouthfuls I think ! Doyle reacted and kept reacting throughout the match - good rider but needs to keep his personal demeanour in check as ther were a lot of kids present on the night. 3. Lions lost the match - not because of Tungate issue - but because both Aaron Summers and Davey Watt were effectively just passengers on the night for whatever reason. 4. For the Lions - Klindt, Hougaard and Lindgren were excellent ( Ludo's unfortunate ef in Heat 2 perhaps proving costly too ) whilst Doyle as predictably brilliant with solid back up from Sedgmen et al ... hope Morris not too badly injured - didn't look to bad a fall as he slid in to the fence but the those sort never do ? Cheers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTFC LION 163 Posted June 5, 2016 So now we gave a Leicester fan threatening to go to the police because Doyle gestured the crowd. For Heaven's sake!! Where did I make a threat? Said he could be in trouble if someone did? So are you saying what he did was ok then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justathought 374 Posted June 5, 2016 Where did I make a threat? Said he could be in trouble if someone did? So are you saying what he did was ok then? Forget it..........life's to short. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTFC LION 163 Posted June 5, 2016 He has shown he is not worth it. onwards we go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted June 5, 2016 People love to come up with this rubbish on here. They example you give of Zagar being one. Another classic was Poole were 'cheating' because Newman wasn't wearing goggles, when clearly that would have put him at a disadvantage. No, you're missing the point. If he had stopped to put goggles on he would have been excluded under the two minute warning. Instead he rather foolishly rode without them and scored two points that ultimately proved to Poole's winning margin overall. Of course he was handicapped by riding without goggles but the cheating was him avoiding a time exclusion by riding illegally in the heat. Sorry it's off-topic but I couldn't let that one pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,827 Posted June 5, 2016 This is Not a Wolves thread but you still want to stick your worthless stupidity on a thread that doesn't concern your team, you really are like many say the number 1 troll. And your posting on a Wolves thread last week? ??? Troll by name, troll by nature. I feel sorry for the sensible Lions fans, what an embarrassment. As for the result, bad luck to the Lions. They are certainly trying hard and showing they can put up a decent fight when all the riders pull together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted June 5, 2016 No, you're missing the point. If he had stopped to put goggles on he would have been excluded under the two minute warning. Instead he rather foolishly rode without them and scored two points that ultimately proved to Poole's winning margin overall. Of course he was handicapped by riding without goggles but the cheating was him avoiding a time exclusion by riding illegally in the heat. Sorry it's off-topic but I couldn't let that one pass. No, it is you who is missing the point. He should have been excluded. The ref got it wrong. But that is not the same as cheating. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robert72 845 Posted June 5, 2016 And your posting on a Wolves thread last week? ??? Troll by name, troll by nature. I feel sorry for the sensible Lions fans, what an embarrassment. As for the result, bad luck to the Lions. They are certainly trying hard and showing they can put up a decent fight when all the riders pull together. Steve you need to stop your constant following of my every post then you make yourself look a numpty. Let's see how long it takes before you reply to my next posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,364 Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Where did I make a threat? Said he could be in trouble if someone did? So are you saying what he did was ok then? I wasn't there, but from the descriptions on here I'd say it is exactly what speedway need more of to stop it becoming a sport watched by 200 people in deck chairs supping on flasks of coffee. Edited June 5, 2016 by grachan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,827 Posted June 5, 2016 Steve you need to stop your constant following of my every post then you make yourself look a numpty. Let's see how long it takes before you reply to my next posts. you forgot to like your own post. ..again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
