Dandelion 775 Posted November 16, 2016 Could you name the 12 please? Very interested to find out which ones you reckon would sign and out-perform Danny. As far as I'm aware, Connor Mountain wasn't at Brough Park on P&P day. Anyway, what's this fixation with Connor Mountain? I think it was in the 2015 P&P if my memory serves me right? I know that's a while ago now though Wouldn't mind a few different riders, Dan Greenwood, Coles, Phillips, and so on, but I think of all the realistic 2.00 NL riders, Mountain is the best So that's what my 'fixation' is, although I've mentioned Danny more than Connor I think Was it Nathan Greaves that George was interested in towards the end of 2015? I think he rode for us at Scunthorpe and there was some talk about him then? I can certainly see the Pros & Cons however i do wonder that if there was little improvement over the course of 2016 why will that be any different in 2017? If a new 2.00er came in at the same level would they have a better chance of improving? There were some excellent No.7's this season and some disappointments and i don't expect the level in 2017 to be any different. Phillips did get a little better over the course of 2016, whether it was a lot, not really, but it was a little better Also he averages over 2 points last year didn't he? So if he comes in on a 2, he'd be doing his part, and he's localish, and all the previous points made Everyone has their opinions I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJC71 388 Posted November 16, 2016 As harsh as it sounds I didn't see any improvement in Danny despite plenty of effort and no real signs of progress either. The reality is he was no quicker at the end of the year than he was at the start. You are really looking for potential and signs of progress even if it's not shown in points, e.g. being regularly on the pace and picking up the odd win. We just didn't see that with Danny. For those reasons I don't see the point of including him again. I know some are suggesting reserves will be weaker, but is that really a reason for including him? Surely that's a better reason for giving a rider who might have more longer term potential a chance? I suspect he will get a place but I think that's more to do with the paucity of riders riding up here. If they had options I doubt he'd be in the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) I think it was in the 2015 P&P if my memory serves me right? I know that's a while ago now though Wouldn't mind a few different riders, Dan Greenwood, Coles, Phillips, and so on, but I think of all the realistic 2.00 NL riders, Mountain is the best So that's what my 'fixation' is, although I've mentioned Danny more than Connor I think Connor came up with Lewis Rose, and I believe they come from the same town/village. He enjoyed his visit, but with riding for Mildenhall he is likely to join a more local club. Right here we go; Bacon Greenwood Chessell Mountain Perks Wood Knight Halsey Hughes Coles Priest Hopwood Knight has twitted that he will be unable to start the new season. NJC71 For those reasons I don't see the point of including him again. I know some are suggesting reserves will be weaker, but is that really a reason for including him? Surely that's a better reason for giving a rider who might have more longer term potential a chance? I suspect he will get a place but I think that's more to do with the paucity of riders riding up here. If they had options I doubt he'd be in the team. Of course Edited November 16, 2016 by Tsunami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted November 16, 2016 Connor came up with Lewis Rose, and I believe they come from the same town/village. He enjoyed his visit, but with riding for Mildenhall he is likely to join a more local club. Knight has twitted that he will be unable to start the new season. NJC71 For those reasons I don't see the point of including him again. I know some are suggesting reserves will be weaker, but is that really a reason for including him? Surely that's a better reason for giving a rider who might have more longer term potential a chance? I suspect he will get a place but I think that's more to do with the paucity of riders riding up here. If they had options I doubt he'd be in the team. Of course Who says he'll be riding for Mildenhall next year? He comes from King's Lynn doesn't he? Connor that is, I'm glad he enjoyed his visit though and I hope whichever team he joins, I get to watch him at Brough next year at least once Don't Mildenhall mainly run on Sunday's too? Or am I again getting things wrong in my head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madsteve 52 Posted November 17, 2016 Could it possibly be a complete 1-7 shake up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 17, 2016 Who says he'll be riding for Mildenhall next year? He comes from King's Lynn doesn't he? Connor that is, I'm glad he enjoyed his visit though and I hope whichever team he joins, I get to watch him at Brough next year at least once Don't Mildenhall mainly run on Sunday's too? Or am I again getting things wrong in my head? ...and there's the rub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted November 17, 2016 ...and there's the rub. Who says he'll be riding for Mildenhall next year? He comes from King's Lynn doesn't he? Connor that is, I'm glad he enjoyed his visit though and I hope whichever team he joins, I get to watch him at Brough next year at least once Don't Mildenhall mainly run on Sunday's too? Or am I again getting things wrong in my head? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondGlory 58 Posted November 18, 2016 I'm just wondering if there's going to be any surprise signings for us. It would be nice to get some more silverware with a fresh face. Then again, it would be nice to win anything at all! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) 1. Jason Garrity 8.55 (This will go down well with the people who like Garrity and not well with the people who hate him, but there's no denying, he has talent and entertainment, he wouldn't be at number 1 for too long imo, so he'd make a perfect 2nd or 3rd heatleader, doesn't look like he'll be joining Sheffield of Berwick and can't see where else he'd be, I've always liked Garrity and he's another Brit ) 2. Ashley Morris 4.98 (Great tryer and never let us down once last season) 3. Lewis Rose 6.12 (This is one of Lewis' big step up years this year I think, he could be a 7 point rider come the end of the season) 4. Ludvig Lindgren 7.69 (Great captain, good at the number 4 spot) 5. Steve Worrall 8.47 (Would think he'd go to number 1 eventually but a solid team leader and he'd go in the 9s eventually imo) 6. 2.19 (So a pick from a few riders from the NL who come in on a 2, whoever it may be) 7. Danny Phillips 2.00 (All the previously made points in this thread, pros and cons) 6 Brits 1 Swede If Lewis Rose doesn't want to ride for us next year, replace him with Newman or Aarnio in the team above and I'd be happy Is Garrity a good enough new face? Edited November 18, 2016 by Dandelion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamond@heart 399 Posted November 18, 2016 1. Jason Garrity 8.55 (This will go down well with the people who like Garrity and not well with the people who hate him, but there's no denying, he has talent and entertainment, he wouldn't be at number 1 for too long imo, so he'd make a perfect 2nd or 3rd heatleader, doesn't look like he'll be joining Sheffield of Berwick and can't see where else he'd be, I've always liked Garrity and he's another Brit ) 2. Ashley Morris 4.98 (Great tryer and never let us down once last season) 3. Lewis Rose 6.12 (This is one of Lewis' big step up years this year I think, he could be a 7 point rider come the end of the season) 4. Ludvig Lindgren 7.69 (Great captain, good at the number 4 spot) 5. Steve Worrall 8.47 (Would think he'd go to number 1 eventually but a solid team leader and he'd go in the 9s eventually imo) 6. 2.19 (So a pick from a few riders from the NL who come in on a 2, whoever it may be) 7. Danny Phillips 2.00 (All the previously made points in this thread, pros and cons) 6 Brits 1 Swede If Lewis Rose doesn't want to ride for us next year, replace him with Newman or Aarnio in the team above and I'd be happy Is Garrity a good enough new face? Garrity is good but comes with lots of baggage according to most. Not sure what that baggage is???? Answers anyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted November 18, 2016 Garrity is good but comes with lots of baggage according to most. Not sure what that baggage is???? Answers anyone Never heard of any 'baggage' just know that he's one of the most entertaining riders I have ever watched, and he'd bring in people through the turnstiles, regardless of how successful the year is really going, I know he has argued with promoters and stuff, but I dunno much else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamond@heart 399 Posted November 18, 2016 Never heard of any 'baggage' just know that he's one of the most entertaining riders I have ever watched, and he'd bring in people through the turnstiles, regardless of how successful the year is really going, I know he has argued with promoters and stuff, but I dunno much elseSnap, I think he is top drawer and very entertaining and would be a great addition, just going off what I have read on other threads. Big question is would he be able to patch things up with Phil the Start Marshall!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted November 18, 2016 Snap, I think he is top drawer and very entertaining and would be a great addition, just going off what I have read on other threads. Big question is would he be able to patch things up with Phil the Start Marshall!! I think he's good mates with Steve too I'd hope he could XD If Garrity went around only riding for teams he was friends with everyone there, he'd ride for no one Maybe that's the baggage people talk about? Jason "Grumpy" Garrity could be his nickname Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terrace Grumbler 337 Posted November 18, 2016 Garrity is a latter day Derrol Keats. Loved Dangerous, me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arson fire 4,785 Posted November 18, 2016 Give me Lambert anyday over Garrity. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites