hagonshocker 1,963 Posted November 12, 2016 Oh dear Orion is rattled..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted November 12, 2016 I am a Poole fan but I have a lot of love for Swindon. As our local rivals for a very long time I've made many a visit to Swindon and enjoyed every one of them, even when we've not been winning. IMO however, a team that has spent nearly half it's points allowance on just 2 riders, with an average of just 5.75 to fill the remaining 5 places, is not a good looking contender. And as a man with many trophies under his belt, I am sure this is why Matt Ford had to make the decision not to sign them. Of course Oxford in 86 built a side in which over 20 of the 45 point limit went on two riders. Tbh that worked out ok for them. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,641 Posted November 12, 2016 every riders average is to high! Ellis is better than Newman and Howarth and not as good as Garrity or Lambert and the averages reflect that. I said before 95% of riders will see their averages drop. get a grip. One day you will actually know what you are talking about. Hans Andersen on a far worse average than Doyle. Love the sour grapes It's all relevant ...to put it another way he average will drop more than the others ...I reckon last year will turn out to a flash in the pan ...as I said a poor signing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,068 Posted November 12, 2016 It's all relevant ...to put it another way he average will drop more than the others ...I reckon last year will turn out to a flash in the pan ...as I said a poor signingis that a real statement? Last year was a flash in the pan?? If all riders have the same season as last year then they will all drop the equivalent of the 1.4 multiplication. This is a weaker league and if Doyle takes it seriously then he will be nigh in unbeatable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poolebolton 464 Posted November 12, 2016 So, I just thought I will have a go at predicting the next 5 signings. SWINDON1. Jason Doyle. 13.412. Woryna= 6.513.Adam Ellis* 7.844.Joe Jacobs= 5.365.Sedgmen=7.66.Ayers=3.707.Nielsen= 5.53 Very young team. But Doyle, Ellis, Sedgmen will get you 30 points a meeting easy. Just need the others to improve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted November 12, 2016 It's all relevant ...to put it another way he average will drop more than the others ...I reckon last year will turn out to a flash in the pan ...as I said a poor signingWhat surprised me last year was that he coped brilliantly in the top 5 along with S.Worrall/Garrity.He is a good gater smooth and this year it is alot weaker Poole's loss Swindon's gain. So, I just thought I will have a go at predicting the next 5 signings. SWINDON1. Jason Doyle. 13.412. Woryna= 6.513.Adam Ellis* 7.844.Joe Jacobs= 5.365.Sedgmen=7.66.Ayers=3.707.Nielsen= 5.53 Very young team. But Doyle, Ellis, Sedgmen will get you 30 points a meeting easy. Just need the others to improve. Woryna to follow in his gramp's footseps at Poole.?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,641 Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) is that a real statement? Last year was a flash in the pan?? If all riders have the same season as last year then they will all drop the equivalent of the 1.4 multiplication. This is a weaker league and if Doyle takes it seriously then he will be nigh in unbeatable Ellis will be poor even in a weaker a league that is my opinion the fact that Poole don't want him tells the story ...Agree about Doyle Edited November 12, 2016 by orion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EnglishRoundabout 1,752 Posted November 12, 2016 It's all relevant ...to put it another way he average will drop more than the others ...I reckon last year will turn out to a flash in the pan ...as I said a poor signing I'm kind of with Orion on this. I wouldn't describe the signing as 'poor', more an interesting one. Certainly I agree this is a crucial season for the lad and he needs to kick on from the platform he built at Poole. The challenge though is whether he can do it at a new track with a management that arguably won't be looking after him as well financially as what he experienced at Poole. Just thinking out loud, Darcy Ward aside, I can't think of too many riders who have improved once they have left Poole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted November 12, 2016 Ellis will be poor even in a weaker a league that is my opinion the fact that Poole don't want him tells the story ...Agree about DoyleWhat a poor post do you believe Newman is a better rider than Ellis? ask the forum what would the vote be or do you always find a reason to snipe at Rossiter's decision's. I'm kind of with Orion on this. I wouldn't describe the signing as 'poor', more an interesting one. Certainly I agree this is a crucial season for the lad and he needs to kick on from the platform he built at Poole. The challenge though is whether he can do it at a new track with a management that arguably won't be looking after him as well financially as what he experienced at Poole. Just thinking out loud, Darcy Ward aside, I can't think of too many riders who have improved once they have left Poole. ER i respect your opinion bigtime sure Poole are a great club but so are Swindon .Ellis improved last year because he worked hard and has talent this year he can go up the ladder again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted November 12, 2016 I'm kind of with Orion on this. I wouldn't describe the signing as 'poor', more an interesting one. Certainly I agree this is a crucial season for the lad and he needs to kick on from the platform he built at Poole. The challenge though is whether he can do it at a new track with a management that arguably won't be looking after him as well financially as what he experienced at Poole. Just thinking out loud, Darcy Ward aside, I can't think of too many riders who have improved once they have left Poole. How about Leigh Adams and Jason Doyle - both improved after leaving Poole 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,641 Posted November 12, 2016 What a poor post do you believe Newman is a better rider than Ellis? ask the forum what would the vote be or do you always find a reason to snipe at Rossiter's decision's. Yet again my opinion is that Newman is better than Ellis but that it all it is an opinion .....whoever he had signed for I would have thought the same . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy robin 2,971 Posted November 12, 2016 So, I just thought I will have a go at predicting the next 5 signings. SWINDON 1. Jason Doyle. 13.41 2. Woryna= 6.51 3.Adam Ellis* 7.84 4.Joe Jacobs= 5.36 5.Sedgmen=7.6 6.Ayers=3.70 7.Nielsen= 5.53 Very young team. But Doyle, Ellis, Sedgmen will get you 30 points a meeting easy. Just need the others to improve. Think Rosco will come up with something better than that & it will probably be foreign riders as a few will want to double up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted November 12, 2016 Yet again my opinion is that Newman is better than Ellis but that it all it is an opinion .....whoever he had signed for I would have thought the same .Interesting yes Orion you are entitled to your opinion and yes you could be right . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,963 Posted November 12, 2016 No chance in hell we would even consider signing Jacobs absolutely dreadful away wouldn't even have him on a real average! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbee 510 Posted November 12, 2016 Yet again my opinion is that Newman is better than Ellis but that it all it is an opinion .....whoever he had signed for I would have thought the same .I don't get that if Newman is better than Ellis why has he spent so long at reserve 3 seasons or more? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
