g13webb 4,254 Posted October 10, 2016 If we are going to do things 'fairly' then any rider missing a season out of the EL must be re-assessed and preferably any rider of GP standard or Polish and Swedish top flight team places should have one agreed average that isn't altered to suit any one club. As far as PL riders moving up, do we need a new way of assessing their abilities and yet again why aren't their current PL averages the fairest way of assessing their convertion? Exactly, When people put their heads together, its not difficult to organise rules 'Fairly'. Had this been done already, there wouldn't have been any complaints with Woffy or Lindback. The problem with the way you suggest, it that the promoters couldn't bend them to their advantage..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,254 Posted October 10, 2016 Michael jepsen jensen talking of coming back to the UK next season good signing for some one if he sticks the season Wonder if he was apart of the Frost assets to Poole deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hans fan 1,001 Posted October 10, 2016 Michael jepsen jensen talking of coming back to the UK next season good signing for some one if he sticks the season it's a big IF , i wouldn't waste the steam of my pea on him 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sancho 28 Posted October 10, 2016 Just a thought on averages Why not base a rider on his average per race. Take the last 40-50 or even 100 rides in ANY league (can't be that difficult to find out) Yes some leagues are more difficult that others but most championships are only over 16 matches (Except here of course) maximum average then would be 3 points (Impossible to get I know) Set the team average at reasonable level (say 10 points) Seems to me then there would be less chance of getting riders on so called false average Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted October 10, 2016 k.k.h couldnt ride away tracks in the pl , (except Peterborough) any el team picking him for a double up rider needs to think again . cracking guy tho . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirates Of Poole 761 Posted October 10, 2016 Wonder if he was apart of the Frost assets to Poole deal He was yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,648 Posted October 10, 2016 Yes but Readypower was only a 2-year sponsorship deal!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,826 Posted October 10, 2016 Exactly, When people put their heads together, its not difficult to organise rules 'Fairly'. Had this been done already, there wouldn't have been any complaints with Woffy or Lindback. The problem with the way you suggest, it that the promoters couldn't bend them to their advantage..... so we carry on with the usual make it up as you go along rubbish then! Michael jepsen jensen talking of coming back to the UK next season good signing for some one if he sticks the season He would be a huge gamble if he did. His commitment to the UK has been poor and has failed to produce anything like he foreign abilities. Seems to have gone backwards for the past few seasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted October 10, 2016 It amazes me that riders, that we know as assets, can be owned by an individual rather then a club. Surely that has to be against all rules and regulations and would not be recognised in the court of law. Similar to football when Mafia type organisation in South America use to take money from clubs who wanted players they thought they owned.... Whatever jurisdiction Readypower had at Peterborough, they should have been relinquished when they parted company. If the rider assets were used as a negotiable settlement where does that leave the riders...... The assett system has played its part in adding to the costs clubs have to pay for riders. It should be outlawed leaving a rider to sort out his own signed contract for a period of time, without these make believe ties that some still hang on to...... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moomin man 76 171 Posted October 10, 2016 Depending on the points limit, as well as conversion rates, I would take a look in no particular order at David Bellego,Dmitri Berge and Erik Riss. I'd also be tempted if I was the Belle Vue promotion to consider Dan Bewley if there is some sort of fast track system at reserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted October 10, 2016 Depending on the points limit, as well as conversion rates, I would take a look in no particular order at David Bellego,Dmitri Berge and Erik Riss. I'd also be tempted if I was the Belle Vue promotion to consider Dan Bewley if there is some sort of fast track system at reserve.Agree with all of them "moomin,Thomsen and Douglas are two others who should be looked at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,960 Posted October 10, 2016 Yes but Readypower was only a 2-year sponsorship deal!!A bit more than just sponsorship surely?..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scoobydoo 2,254 Posted October 10, 2016 So is it now a case that Rick Frosts assets were just apart of the 2yr sponsorship deal and now revert back to being up for grabs to anyone without Poole having first refusal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Beevers 207 Posted October 11, 2016 Michael jepsen jensen talking of coming back to the UK next season good signing for some one if he sticks the season I like him. He is a world class rider in my opinion and always mixes it in the GPs and should be there in my opinion. Was the second best Dane in the World Cup and the E.L is crying out for good riders to be fair. Not sure where he would go? Chris Holder or Tai Woffindens replacement perhaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,648 Posted October 11, 2016 A bit more than just sponsorship surely?..... Why?? So is it now a case that Rick Frosts assets were just apart of the 2yr sponsorship deal and now revert back to being up for grabs to anyone without Poole having first refusal The deal is/was a 2 year deal to the end of December 2016. Until we know if a new deal is in place then any assets 'owned' by Rick Frost will presumably remain his until such time as he sells them on or loans them to whoever wants them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
