damosuzuki 696 Posted December 6, 2016 Why don't they make the Premiership points limit for the bottom 6 and allow the teams a number one on any average IE doesn't count towards team building. It's still only one out of seven and it's good to see likes of Holder riding in the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted December 6, 2016 Why don't they make the Premiership points limit for the bottom 6 and allow the teams a number one on any average IE doesn't count towards team building. It's still only one out of seven and it's good to see likes of Holder riding in the UK. Great idea - lets do that this season. That means Swindon have 4 more points to play with 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wjm 261 Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Because there looks to be an unwritten regulation/gentleman’s agreement in relation to “top riders” and the working of the points limit was the best way to freeze many of them out without breeching employment laws? While those who did or do decide to sign top riders are going to be punished for doing so – see Swindon and Doyle. Edited December 6, 2016 by Minor Interest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Because there looks to be an unwritten regulation/gentleman’s agreement in relation to “top riders” and the working of the points limit was the best way to freeze many of them out without breeching employment laws? While those who did or do decide to sign top riders are going to be punished for doing so – see Swindon and Doyle. Riders are self employed so employment law in relation to who can or cannot ride is not applicable. Edited December 6, 2016 by A ORLOV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyJ 95 Posted December 6, 2016 Wonder what happens if say Doyle rides enough matches for a greensheet ~ 10.00 then has to leave Swindon. If Holder were to be targeted as a replacement would his 12.00+ average conversion still apply? Or have rules been created to cater for such scenarios? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,362 Posted December 6, 2016 Wonder what happens if say Doyle rides enough matches for a greensheet ~ 10.00 then has to leave Swindon. If Holder were to be targeted as a replacement would his 12.00+ average conversion still apply? Or have rules been created to cater for such scenarios? This is a very big point, particularly should Doyle, for example, get injured and Swindon need a replacement. If the average is dropping to 42.00, then riders will presumably also be on their current average. However, how will it affect riders who are not in the league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted December 6, 2016 This is a very big point, particularly should Doyle, for example, get injured and Swindon need a replacement. If the average is dropping to 42.00, then riders will presumably also be on their current average. However, how will it affect riders who are not in the league? Would hope once they drop to 42 they forget any 1.4 mult for any EL riders, but they would need to increase any PL rider av up to the EL standard, liked they used to do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 6, 2016 Why don't they make the Premiership points limit for the bottom 6 and allow the teams a number one on any average IE doesn't count towards team building. It's still only one out of seven and it's good to see likes of Holder riding in the UK. It wouldn't be fair. If the top nine riders in this year's averages signed as the nine number ones, Swindon would get Doyle on 9.58 (13.41) & the last team, say Leicester, Fricke on 7.08 (9.92). This is a very big point, particularly should Doyle, for example, get injured and Swindon need a replacement. If the average is dropping to 42.00, then riders will presumably also be on their current average. However, how will it affect riders who are not in the league? They'll just come in on their proper averages, e.g. Holder on 8.95 could replace Jason if Jason achieved above that figure after 4H&A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted December 6, 2016 It amazes me just how slow speedway fans are. They don't want the top riders, they're trying to cut costs. They're trying to force them out.The rules have worked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbee 510 Posted December 6, 2016 It wouldn't be fair. If the top nine riders in this year's averages signed as the nine number ones, Swindon would get Doyle on 9.58 (13.41) & the last team, say Leicester, Fricke on 7.08 (9.92). They'll just come in on their proper averages, e.g. Holder on 8.95 could replace Jason if Jason achieved above that figure after 4H&A I don't think so according to a post on another thread there averages stay inflated for this season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midland Red 2,383 Posted December 6, 2016 Why don't they make the Premiership points limit for the bottom 6 and allow the teams a number one on any average IE doesn't count towards team building. It's still only one out of seven and it's good to see likes of Holder riding in the UK. They're too expensive for the UK - it's all about reducing costs (as any business will endeavour to do in difficult times) - it's not rocket science (no Rye House pun intended) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites