Rayleigh 362 Posted February 22, 2017 Thank you for all under estimating Rye House, it means the bookies will now give me better odds. Harris/Nicholls/Kennett very very reliable, maybe not as sexy on the world stage but have always delivered on the English stage. Watt (did you not see the Winter results from Aussie) and Robson - more than a match in the engine room for any other second string pairing. Branford - maybe in the top three of reserves and with such a solid top 5 is unlikely to reach the main team all season unlike Allen, Bates or Klient/Newman Perks - anything is a bonus although there are some comparable No7s in the league, disappointed he is riding all 3 leagues, just too much at this stage of his carear 1st - Wolves 2nd - Rye House 3rd - Poole 4th - Belle Vue 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,782 Posted February 22, 2017 If Branford ends up as one of the top three reserves then I'm a monkey's uncle. That said good luck to the lad #backthebrits 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOBODY 538 Posted February 23, 2017 1 Wolverhampton 2 Rye House 3 Poole 4 Kings Lynn 5 Belle Vue 6 Swindon 7 Coventry 8 Leicester 9 Somerset Play off Final.........Wolves V Poole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted February 23, 2017 BELLE VUE ** 1-3 Cook, Fricke, S Worrall 4-5 Sedgeman, ? 6-7 Bewley, Smith Going on this being something like what is being talked about, they have a good top two with two good back up riders. Both reserves are exciting 17 year olds who have big potential and if the last signing can hold down a second string position they should be near the top again. PLAY-OFFS -- Yes COVENTRY 1-3 King, K Bjerre, Garrity 4-5 L Bjerre, L Kerr Res. Bates, Sarjeant. Kenneth Bjerre is a bargain and Bates should improve but this looks one of the weakest teams and surprised they didn't bring Woryna back. Bleak and cold off season will be followed damp summer with a few light signs of sun. PLAY-OFFS -- No KINGS LYNN 1-3 Holder, Lambert, Batchelor 4-5. Porsing, Rose Res. Huckenbeck, Bailey Possibly the strongest top three if on form but look to be too reliant on that trio and should struggle away. PLAY-OFFS - Not this time LEICESTER 1-3. Nilsson, Wolbert, Lebedevs 4-5. Gomolski, Auty Res. E Riss, Ayres Having a strong reserve won't save them from a poor season ahead but there should be some entertainment if Lebedevs and Gomolski show their true form. PLAY OFFS -- No way POOLE PIRATES 1-3. Kaspazak, Andersen, B Kurtz 4-5. J Holder, Newman Res.. Klindt, Shanes. Year after year you can put Poole down as favourites and this is a solid line up all the way down and will always have a great reserve. PLAY OFFS -- YES RYE HOUSE 1-3. Kennett, Harris, Nicholls 4-5. Watt, Robson Res. Branford, Perks Very strong top five and a great potential reserve. Long with Poole they look contenders from the start. PLAY OFFS -- YES SOMERSET 1-3. Tungate, Grajczonek, Hougaard 4-5. Wright, Starke Res. Allen, Gravesen Looks weak and no real fire power but it's a solid line up which could suprise a few but not enough to challenge. PLAY OFFS -- No SWINDON 1-3. Doyle, Morris, Ellis 4-5. Bellego, BWD Res. Grondal, Wajtneck Having one of the best riders in the world in Doyle won't make them contenders as they look to have little back up. PLAY OFFS -- No WOLVERHAMPTON 1-3. Lindgren, Masters, Thorssell 4-5. Howarth, Skornicki Res. Clegg, Greaves Defending Champions who have recalled five of last years team despite the lowering of the limit. In effect they have replaced Woffinden and Karlsson for Skornicki and Greaves and both will be key figures to their fortunes. Great top three. PLAY OFFS -- Yes Belle Vue, Poole, Rye House and Wolves look the best four with Kings Lynn the main threat. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waiheke1 4,295 Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) If Branford ends up as one of the top three reserves then I'm a monkey's uncle. That said good luck to the lad #backthebrits Id say he may squeeze into the top 10.no way hecwill outscore the likes of Klindt bates huckenbeck Allen Sargent etc. Edited February 23, 2017 by waihekeaces1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 854 Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) 1st - Wolves Skornicki hasn't ridden a bike on shale for how long? Did you see how good Masters, Thorsell, Howarth & Clegg were away from Monmore in the playoffs? They don't have Woffinden, Kylmakorpi or PK to turn to when things are going wrong. Just some bloke who was at best a reasonable third heat leader 3 years ago, who hasn't ridden a bike in 3 years. Unless Lindgren develop a team ethic and personality. Fear not Howe is looking to return to speedway. All hail the saviour eh Steve? Edited February 23, 2017 by Col Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted February 23, 2017 Harris/Nicholls/Kennett very very reliable. Watt (did you not see the Winter results from Aussie) In response to your first comment, all 3 blow hot and cold - when they are good they can be unbeatable but reliable they are not. What someone does in Aus doesn't often translate to Europe - look at Brady Kurtz last year. Having said that Rye House will comfortably make the play-offs with the team they have assembled (barring injuries). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted February 23, 2017 Poole King's Lynn Rye House Wolves Swindon Coventry Somerset Belle Vue Leicester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Skornicki hasn't ridden a bike on shale for how long? Did you see how good Masters, Thorsell, Howarth & Clegg were away from Monmore in the playoffs? They don't have Woffinden, Kylmakorpi or PK to turn to when things are going wrong. Just some bloke who was at best a reasonable third heat leader 3 years ago, who hasn't ridden a bike in 3 years. Unless Lindgren develop a team ethic and personality. Fear not Howe is looking to return to speedway. All hail the saviour eh Steve? Definate play off contenders in my opinion. Thorsell and Masters were ok at Poole in the play offs both scored similar to Tai i believe and P.K was poor at Poole. Don't think Howe will be an option he has to prove himself first. Skornicki will be fine i don't see him not riding for a while to be a problem, if he had any doubts he would not ride. Edited February 23, 2017 by foreverblue 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,823 Posted February 23, 2017 Skornicki hasn't ridden a bike on shale for how long? Did you see how good Masters, Thorsell, Howarth & Clegg were away from Monmore in the playoffs? They don't have Woffinden, Kylmakorpi or PK to turn to when things are going wrong. Just some bloke who was at best a reasonable third heat leader 3 years ago, who hasn't ridden a bike in 3 years. Unless Lindgren develop a team ethic and personality. Fear not Howe is looking to return to speedway. All hail the saviour eh Steve? Shown up by your usual hatred of all things wolves again eh Col? You do know that Thorssell top scored at Poole in the semi?? Very poor eh Col? Which is your prediction for Wolves again Col? The one you said we were useless or the latest one that has us in the top 4?? Hard to keep up as you change your mind so often. Why is Howe the saviour??? A top 4 side Col, or one when you question another poster for having them in your top 4?? Waiting with baited breath for the next change of mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keef robin 551 Posted February 23, 2017 Rye House Kings Lynn Poole Windon Wolves Belle Vue Coventry Somerset Leicester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,057 Posted February 23, 2017 Id say he may squeeze into the top 10.no way hecwill outscore the likes of Klindt bates huckenbeck Allen Sargent etc. Outscored Klindt and Sarjent in the PL last year just didn't attain a real average, id rather Branford than most at least you know he will try no matter what conditions etc same cant be said for Klindt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmc82 2,878 Posted February 23, 2017 Outscored Klindt and Sarjent in the PL last year just didn't attain a real average, id rather Branford than most at least you know he will try no matter what conditions etc same cant be said for Klindt Wasn't Branford in the easier reserve races last year whilst Sarjeant & Klindt were in the top 5? Branford will try hard but I don't think he will be anywhere near the top 3 reserves in the league. He wasn't when he rode for Swindon. Branford - maybe in the top three of reserves and with such a solid top 5 is unlikely to reach the main team all season unlike Allen, Bates or Klient/Newman Really? I personally would say that Klindt/Newman, Bates/Kerr, Huckenbeck, Sarjeant and possibly Ayres & Clegg are all better in the top league. The 5 listed first are all capable of performing in the top 5 in both EL & PL. Branford is a long way off being in the EL top 5 and still rides at reserve In the PL rather than the main body. I can't see reserves like Branford, Shanes, Zach coming out against riders like Doyle, King, Masters or even second strings like Gomolski or Starke and beating them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 854 Posted February 24, 2017 I loathe the fact I think Poole & Wolves will make the play-offs >8 Play-offs - Kings Lynn, Poole, Wolves. A top 4 side Col, or one when you question another poster for having them in your top 4?? Waiting with baited breath for the next change of mind. What change of mind is that then? You do know that Thorssell top scored at Poole in the semi?? Threw cheap points away, after gating well by going too wide on bends 1 & 2. Probably outscored the riders who did the heat leader slots and Wolves reserves who were tragic, two reserves Wolves have retained. Expecting one to be a reasonable second string and the other to be their main man at reserve :D With that septet Wolves will make the play-offs I'm sure, but Wolves won't win the play-offs, they won't even make the final IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) If Branford ends up as one of the top three reserves then I'm a monkey's uncle. That said good luck to the lad #backthebrits Id back Riss, Klindt, Sarjeant, Bates, Huckenbeck and Allen ahead of him. People are saying Sarjeant is a crap signing but he's younger, has about 3 seasons less senior (EL and PL) experience and even if his worst PL season has averages more than Branford has ever manged. Really not getting the hype. Outscored Klindt and Sarjent in the PL last year just didn't attain a real average, id rather Branford than most at least you know he will try no matter what conditions etc same cant be said for KlindtExcept he didn't outscore Sarjeant at all. He average 0.1 less and that was riding in reserve vs riding at number 2. Edited February 24, 2017 by SCB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites