waiheke1 4,295 Posted September 14, 2017 My point was that football will never use play offs to decide champions.Whoever wins the league is rightly called the champions.Promotion and relegation play offs are a different thing entirely.Champions League? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted September 14, 2017 If the answer is 'tv' then why are leagues that aren't televised also operating a play off system? But why does TV want play-offs? Because it gets viewers. So the viewers must like them. And who are the viewer? The fans. Odd that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted September 14, 2017 Champions League? Which should have been re-branded to European League Winners as it contains teams who finish 2nd,3rd or 4th in their respective leagues just to appease TV & Sponsors Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 14, 2017 Which should have been re-branded to European League Winners as it contains teams who finish 2nd,3rd or 4th in their respective leagues just to appease TV & Sponsors Yeah, because the fans hate it don't they. All those empty stadiums for the teams who finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th. The absolute despair when your team clinches a Champions League place. Damn those tv and sponsor people! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
colin wood 249 Posted September 14, 2017 What's Champions League got to do with it ? We all know that's a knock out style competition after the group stages.I was talking about play offs to decide champions after all league matches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 14, 2017 What's Champions League got to do with it ? We all know that's a knock out style competition after the group stages.I was talking about play offs to decide champions after all league matches Yes, many countries have them, you're wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,746 Posted September 14, 2017 Speedway at it's absolute best. Superb atmosphere, riders giving their absolute all. I didn't know riders were not giving their all in other matches , what you describe should be standard in all matches , you shouldn't have to pay extra for basically you making the event atmosphere bettter 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,298 Posted September 14, 2017 The only way to make it work and have the two separate 'champions' if you will is as mentioned earlier in the thread and turn it into an 'event'. A weekend of speedway at the NSS etc. However.. there is one big problem with that of course and that is the weather which may decide not to play ball! You could move the British GP back. Then have the play off final at Cardiff on Friday night followed by the GP on Saturday. That's what I call an event Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BurntFaceMan 413 Posted September 14, 2017 Seems from rumours that speedway on TV is no longer the cash cow it was (if ever ) and the play-offs were brought in to suit TV, do we still need them. Would it not be better to have a league with champions and an end of season cup competition so that clubs season doesn't end in August? BT could always show the cup comp if they wanted to go into October. Disclaimer....I've always been against play-offs No because that would be boring. The play offs is speedways money shot. It's what it all leads up to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 14, 2017 I didn't know riders were not giving their all in other matches , what you describe should be standard in all matches , you shouldn't have to pay extra for basically you making the event atmosphere bettter Don't go then, it's really that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,746 Posted September 14, 2017 Don't go then, it's really that simple. im not going , not just because of things like the price rise , just lost interest in British speedway and that is where we are , if the sport can't get someone like me to go it's doing something wrong and needs to change it thinking , I'm not lost to the sport just the British version 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted September 14, 2017 im not going , not just because of things like the price rise , just lost interest in British speedway and that is where we are , if the sport can't get someone like me to go it's doing something wrong and needs to change it thinking , I'm not lost to the sport just the British version So the price is irrelevant then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,615 Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) not interested in any other sports but when money is tight and the sport is struggling to attract fans it shouldn't be making the public pay extra , you get nothing extra for your money , the riders don't get anything extra , the costs are the same so why should the fans be charged extra ? yet again tell me the difference from any other sport ? You get plenty extra in terms that you see a grand final with every rider trying a 100 % and with a chance of your team become league champions..every club is losing money and you want to stop them giving them a chance of getting some of it back . Edited September 14, 2017 by orion 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moxey63 1,785 Posted September 14, 2017 im not going , not just because of things like the price rise , just lost interest in British speedway and that is where we are , if the sport can't get someone like me to go it's doing something wrong and needs to change it thinking , I'm not lost to the sport just the British version If they charge more for the Play-Offs, then what about some of the weakened line-ups and the early cancellations they offer from March-August? Surely they should drop some of the prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,746 Posted September 14, 2017 yet again tell me the difference from any other sport ? You get plenty extra in terms that you see a grand final with every rider trying a 100 % and with a chance of your team become league champions..every club is losing money and you want to stop them giving them a chance of getting some of it back . I guess your not reading my other posts of why I feel I no longer have a team to follow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
