fish keeper 165 Posted October 16, 2017 IMO this meeting should be call off until next season when both teams can put out a 1 to 7 of their own riders and not guests and RR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hamish McRaker 601 Posted October 16, 2017 Re Cook, there have been far, far too many short-term illnesses amongst riders, mostly linked to trips to Poland or scheduled trips to inconvenient fixtures. It is essential that the cases of those suffering are thoroughly investigated and that the safety of other riders is not compromised ;-) I've never known a sport with so many short-term illnesses or miracle recoveries. Is it something in the methanol? Congratulations to the BSPA for finally tackling this and hopefully improving the long-term health of their competitors. I would suggest that for short-term illnesses and miracle recoveries, you cannot look much further than football, especially the expensive sector. Miracle recoveries seem to be hastened by the appearance of yellow or red cards,or the award of a penalty!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted October 16, 2017 I think you'll find they did it to Peterborough yesterday re. BWD, so not coincidental Indeed. Some Belle Vue fans feeling rules are only aimed to punish them. Back in the real world an Aces team of 5 home riders faces a team of 3 Wolves riders with iffy guests. Aces can't lose this. Sooner we dump competitions like this the better. I've yet to read any post anywhere that anyone is interested in this competition. I'll have a look at the score later and be nonplussed whatever the result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gr8scot 589 Posted October 16, 2017 Imagine if every worker in the country got a "7 day don't come back to work penalty" for being ill one day...... the country would grind to a halt very quickly Not all illnesses are contagious so that argument doesn't hold water either As if the teams weren't decimated enough 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted October 16, 2017 Imagine if every worker in the country got a "7 day don't come back to work penalty" for being ill one day...... the country would grind to a halt very quickly Not all illnesses are contagious so that argument doesn't hold water either As if the teams weren't decimated enough "one day"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUPERACE 440 Posted October 16, 2017 Indeed. Some Belle Vue fans feeling rules are only aimed to punish them. Back in the real world an Aces team of 5 home riders faces a team of 3 Wolves riders with iffy guests. Aces can't lose this. Sooner we dump competitions like this the better. I've yet to read any post anywhere that anyone is interested in this competition. I'll have a look at the score later and be nonplussed whatever the result. Dump it why? We have 2 trophys to go for and you want 1 dumped?? For me they need to make the final mid season and it would become much bigger again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,278 Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) They should start the season with the KO Cup and then run the Final around July.. Similar to the way the League Cup in Football breaks up the Season and gives two clear focal points. One Final mid season and one Final at the end... One team could even market themselves as 'going for a double' which can only enhance the possibility of attracting fans.. If there is any apathy towards the Competition having it at the start of the season would still mean good crowds looking to see their Speedway again after a long winter.. Ludicrous that it needs just 14 evenings to complete the competition and from April we haven't been able to get it finished much earlier to maintain interest... Edited October 16, 2017 by mikebv 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted October 16, 2017 Dump it why? We have 2 trophys to go for and you want 1 dumped?? For me they need to make the final mid season and it would become much bigger again Why? No one seems interested in this competition anymore. They binned it years ago for this very reason and from what I hear from staging tracks they have been the poorest of the season. Last week's first leg of the final was played out in front off a poor crowd im lead to believe. It's a final........... no one seems to care. Give it some meaning it might, just might be salvaged. Early season and run the final mid season. Just maybe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk127 1,359 Posted October 16, 2017 IMO this meeting should be call off until next season when both teams can put out a 1 to 7 of their own riders and not guests and RR. Totally agree. It has become a farce with an unrecognisable Wolves team. Creditably no longer exists as far as speedway is concerned and those whose hands the sport is in should hang their heads in shame. You have failed the supporters and the sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,096 Posted October 16, 2017 Going pretty much as predicted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulf 1,513 Posted October 16, 2017 Totally agree. It has become a farce with an unrecognisable Wolves team. Creditably no longer exists as far as speedway is concerned and those whose hands the sport is in should hang their heads in shame. You have failed the supporters and the sport. Apart from Cook, every other missing rider is injured. What do you expect the authorities to do about that ? The fixture has to be run this season, next season is utterly pointless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted October 16, 2017 Imagine if every worker in the country got a "7 day don't come back to work penalty" for being ill one day...... the country would grind to a halt very quickly Not all illnesses are contagious so that argument doesn't hold water either As if the teams weren't decimated enough My sister has exactly that clause in her work contract. Im sure plenty of others do too. It makes sense, stops riders taking the piss and picking and choosing meetings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted October 16, 2017 Indeed. Some Belle Vue fans feeling rules are only aimed to punish them. Back in the real world an Aces team of 5 home riders faces a team of 3 Wolves riders with iffy guests. Aces can't lose this. Sooner we dump competitions like this the better. I've yet to read any post anywhere that anyone is interested in this competition. I'll have a look at the score later and be nonplussed whatever the result. NOTHING wrong with the competition ... it is the way it is organised (or rather not organised) that is the problem. The KO Cup Fin al used to attract the biggest crowds of the season. Have designated, firm dates for each round and ensure that the final is held before the end of August. It's not rocket science. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk127 1,359 Posted October 16, 2017 Apart from Cook, every other missing rider is injured. What do you expect the authorities to do about that ? The fixture has to be run this season, next season is utterly pointless. Set realistic deadlines and not have it hanging on in the dying embers of the season. Fix deadlines for various rounds and stick to them of forfeit the fixture. It is down to the powers that be to run the sport and not allow things to drag on. I really don't get the excuses if on the basis of what you are saying it is rider availability. That excuse applies earlier in the season as it does now, so we can agree differ. Just a shame for the supporters to watch a good team look so poor because they cannot put out the best 1 to 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted October 16, 2017 NOTHING wrong with the competition ... it is the way it is organised (or rather not organised) that is the problem. The KO Cup Fin al used to attract the biggest crowds of the season. Have designated, firm dates for each round and ensure that the final is held before the end of August. It's not rocket science. I remember a day when it was equally as important as winning the league. I still maintain, do supporters really care for it anymore? It's not just this competition that seriously needs addressing. Get the fixture lists right for British Speedway and it might stand a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites