wealdstone Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Please explain I am saying no more. Many will not need clarification 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I am saying no more. Many will not need clarification It's a forum say what you think unless your jenga in disguise and will cry outside the turnstiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: It's a forum say what you think unless your jenga in disguise and will cry outside the turnstiles just like to add that a pro sport is classed if you are paid for your time . taxi drivers are classed as pro drivers . so if you make a full time living from it , you should be classed as a pro and the sport should be able to get funding for it ! hope this post is nice enough for you phil ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, jenga said: just like to add that a pro sport is classed if you are paid for your time . taxi drivers are classed as pro drivers . so if you make a full time living from it , you should be classed as a pro and the sport should be able to get funding for it ! hope this post is nice enough for you phil ... Unfortunately as has been recently stated by Ellis Perks you don't make a living from it and don't cover costs so is definitely not professional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wealdstone Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, phillwhitewasmad said: It's a forum say what you think unless your jenga in disguise and will cry outside the turnstiles I am not Jenga in any shape or form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 hours ago, wealdstone said: I am not Jenga in any shape or form i can vouch for that . 3 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Unfortunately as has been recently stated by Ellis Perks you don't make a living from it and don't cover costs so is definitely not professional he must be one of the very few , him and sarge ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 14 hours ago, phillwhitewasmad said: In fairness I think you will find it's not a one man show as I understand it the majority of clubs vetoed Plymouth last year he is just the one who has to say it in public because he is the chairman. personally I would like all votes to be transparent so everyone can see who voted for what then see who really is pulling the strings . Instead of just blaming the person who announces it Yep, nothing to do with the fact that Philips is a wrong ‘un I’m sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Yep, nothing to do with the fact that Philips is a wrong ‘un I’m sure. And godfreys not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Bagpuss said: Yep, nothing to do with the fact that Philips is a wrong ‘un I’m sure. I wouldn't know that I have no information to back it up. 1 hour ago, lewy said: And godfreys not!! not in any dealings I have had with him. Got to speak as you find . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 If football can run with no crowds every week paying out the huge wages that they do to top clubs then they should not be getting any money at all rather the other way round, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 3 hours ago, lewy said: And godfreys not!! The sport is full of them with degrees of wrongness I’d say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: The sport is full of them with degrees of wrongness I’d say I remember when # Name Removed #, Pavitt and Ronnie Russell came in “to save the day” at Somerset in 2009. It was like they see a golden egg and just wanted to try and rinse it as quick as they could before they were ousted. Wrong’uns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 hours ago, John Scrutton said: If football can run with no crowds every week paying out the huge wages that they do to top clubs then they should not be getting any money at all rather the other way round, They aren't all the money for football is going to non-league clubs and the women's game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxey63 Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 History has shown speedway is no good with money. It is frustrating the sport hasn't received a cash injection but not surprising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, moxey63 said: History has shown speedway is no good with money. It is frustrating the sport hasn't received a cash injection but not surprising. Being as it’s meant to be a loan, you can see why. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnleft Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 The bail out isn’t anti speedway, it’s titled up as a Winter Sports bailout and the key condition was that to qualify for a payment the Sport must be in its normal season, this is why major sports such as Cricket don’t appear on the list. I am not saying it’s not wrong that Speedway hasn’t had any money, just explaining why nothing has been allocated tomSpeedway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 ..but there is a secondary pot for speedway to access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedtiger Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 14 hours ago, Turnleft said: The bail out isn’t anti speedway, it’s titled up as a Winter Sports bailout and the key condition was that to qualify for a payment the Sport must be in its normal season, this is why major sports such as Cricket don’t appear on the list. I am not saying it’s not wrong that Speedway hasn’t had any money, just explaining why nothing has been allocated tomSpeedway No there’s a number of summer sports included in the bail out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted November 24, 2020 Report Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, Speedtiger said: No there’s a number of summer sports included in the bail out. Remember this money is only a loan and the monies “allocated” for each sport still require individual clubs/organisations (they who will have responsibility for paying back the loan) to apply for their own individual loan. In doing so one of the criteria they will need to meet is to demonstrate the losses they will make from not having crowds in attendance or similar forms of income such as sponsorship I.e. no event/crowd no (reduced) sponsorship money. They will also need to show how the loan will be paid back. The term “winter sport” is a bit of a red herring and only applicable because of the period of time the loans will be available the “winter” months of Dec - March. Clearly some sports operate throughout the year both indoor & outdoors thus this latter element is not a consideration for the eligibility of applying for a loan. Edited November 24, 2020 by 1 valve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 Football should not have any Government because if they can run a full season of matches and not get a penny in through the gate and the money that many of the Stars are said to getting for playing Or are they playing for next to nothing I DOUBT IT. The top clubs must be rolling in cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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