redlead 104 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) A good match last, some great racing. Lions getting a point was the right result I think. Nick Morris is a true racer, as for his 'chat' with the ref, I see no problem with it, a stern word from the ref should have sufficed as a slap on the wrist. How many remember Geoff Pusey's visits to the refs box, climbing over the fence, stomping through the crowd, certainly got the crowd going. We need riders like Morris, racers who entertain. Both sides raced hard last night to make a great meeting. Edited April 23, 2022 by redlead 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidewinder 191 Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, redlead said: A good match last, some great racing. Lions getting a point was the right result I think. Nick Morris is a true racer, as for his 'chat' with the ref, I see no problem with it, a stern word from the ref should have sufficed as a slap on the wrist. How many remember Geoff Pusey's visits to the refs box, climbing over the fence, stomping through the crowd, certainly got the crowd going. We need riders like Morris, racers who entertain. Both sides raced hard last night to make a great meeting. I believe, Nick Morris was initially ejected from the meeting, for his starting gate actions, then reinstated after several phone calls Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redlead 104 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, sidewinder said: I believe, Nick Morris was initially ejected from the meeting, for his starting gate actions, then reinstated after several phone calls Then that's poor refereeing on two counts, ejecting him from the meeting for something that was relatively minor, and secondly for being talked into changing his mind. Edited April 23, 2022 by redlead 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yearbyred 1,107 Posted April 23, 2022 45 minutes ago, redlead said: Then that's poor refereeing on two counts, ejecting him from the meeting for something that was relatively minor, and secondly for being talked into changing his mind. Three when you count the decision that sparked the incident. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidewinder 191 Posted April 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Yearbyred said: Three when you count the decision that sparked the incident. In your opinion of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yearbyred 1,107 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, sidewinder said: In your opinion of course. Yes - an opinion based on my own eyes (from a perfect position to see who crossed the line first). Saying it as I saw it, as I always do and try to be fair to both teams. Everyone around me actually laughed when the result was announced. Edited April 23, 2022 by Yearbyred 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidewinder 191 Posted April 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Yearbyred said: Yes - an opinion based on my own eyes (from a perfect position to see who crossed the line first). Saying it as I saw it, as I always do and try to be fair to both teams. Everyone around me actually laughed when the result was announced. That would be from your position about a 100 yards away on the back straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yearbyred 1,107 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, sidewinder said: That would be from your position about a 100 yards away on the back straight. Yes that’s the one. Directly in line with the start and finish line. 72.18 yards away according to google maps. Edited April 23, 2022 by Yearbyred 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidewinder 191 Posted April 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Yearbyred said: Yes that’s the one. Directly in line with the start and finish line. 72.18 yards away according to google maps. If its such a good view, then I suggest, we put the refs box there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yearbyred 1,107 Posted April 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, sidewinder said: If its such a good view, then I suggest, we put the refs box there. Good idea. Might stop them making rubbish decisions. But I doubt it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted April 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, sidewinder said: If its such a good view, then I suggest, we put the refs box there. I presume that view doesnt have a fence blocking the finish line, like some fences do at tracks...? With sometimes the wheels not visible depending on how near they are to the fence as they cross the line, meaning the refs give their "best guess" result based on the riders crossing the line, not their bikes.. Sometimes being directly opposite the finish line with nothing blocking the view can be far more accurate.. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted April 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: I presume that view doesnt have a fence blocking the finish line, like some fences do at tracks...? With sometimes the wheels not visible depending on how near they are to the fence as they cross the line, meaning the refs give their "best guess" result based on the riders crossing the line, not their bikes.. Sometimes being directly opposite the finish line with nothing blocking the view can be far more accurate.. Aye, if ye can see that far! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, ruffdiamond said: Aye, if ye can see that far! Should maybe have someone on the centre green in line with the tapes? Let the ref have the panoramic view for the incidents and the person on the centre green give the 51/49 verdicts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted April 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, mikebv said: Should maybe have someone on the centre green in line with the tapes? Let the ref have the panoramic view for the incidents and the person on the centre green give the 51/49 verdicts... Yeah, as long as he stays in a fixed position, looking at the start/finish line,,, otherwise he might get dizzy and fall over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,292 Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, ruffdiamond said: Yeah, as long as he stays in a fixed position, looking at the start/finish line,,, otherwise he might get dizzy and fall over. Cycle speedway do it well... And they have to spin around and ref the whole race... Not seen one throw up yet... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites