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2 hours ago, Hackney said:

Is there a genuine plan B for 2025 if we can't get back into the showground ?

Interesting question and one to leave on the back burner really. I don't know is the answer and whether the consortium have discussed this on their call, who knows? I'd guess that if Peterborough doesn't happen locally in some form in 2025 then that really would be it. What I do know is that the focus has to be on that return to the EoES because that is the only objective that will get a result. Any plan b can only be considered in terms of the Peterborough Local Plan, PCC doing their job and AEPG fulfilling the requirements of LP36 & 30. It's also worth noting that when PCC turned down Butterfield's retrospective DHL planning application that was recommended to be approved they went elsewhere in the local plan to find the criteria to turn it down, so if the will is there?

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18 hours ago, Flappy said:

Correct however IP30 and IP36 state if so they'll need to find an alternative venue. 

I know which one is cheaper 

Developers bank land for many years and leave it undeveloped. They could wait for ten years or more.

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Buster about to get humbled by Alex Brady for £35,000 looks like he'll have to renegotiate with AEPG for another £35,000 in hush money.

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11 hours ago, FromBendThree said:

Developers bank land for many years and leave it undeveloped. They could wait for ten years or more.

Not when it's on the council's radar and part of the local plan, that's also currently under review. This is not a bit of random land that nobody cares about. AEPG are not going to get that luxury and they want the job done. They are not in in for the long game and already have their timetable in the public domain.

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10 hours ago, TTT said:

Buster about to get humbled by Alex Brady for £35,000 looks like he'll have to renegotiate with AEPG for another £35,000 in hush money.

Rumour is that allegedly his last meeting would cover that with change anyway if it came to pass?

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23/00412/OUT Representation from Consultee (Web) Sport England 08/01/2024

Speedway

As set out previously, Sport England does not wish to make detailed comments on this point, and have referred the Council to the governing body, the Speedway Control Bureau, who we understand have raised objection to the application.

Whilst we note the content of the supporting statement in relation to the loss of speedway venue, this does not seem to appropriately address the relevant planning policies in the Local Plan, particularly LP36 and the guidance in the NPPF in respect of the loss of the facility. 

This is because no information is provided in respect of replacement facilities in line with policy LP36 of the Local Plan. For information, the previous reference to para 99 of the NPPF should now read Para 103 following the updated publication in December 2023.

As such, our previous comments remain valid in respect of the loss of the facility for speedway.

Many thanks, Stuart Morgans Principal Planning Manager

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17 hours ago, Crump99 said:

23/00412/OUT Representation from Consultee (Web) Sport England 08/01/2024

Speedway

As set out previously, Sport England does not wish to make detailed comments on this point, and have referred the Council to the governing body, the Speedway Control Bureau, who we understand have raised objection to the application.

Whilst we note the content of the supporting statement in relation to the loss of speedway venue, this does not seem to appropriately address the relevant planning policies in the Local Plan, particularly LP36 and the guidance in the NPPF in respect of the loss of the facility. 

This is because no information is provided in respect of replacement facilities in line with policy LP36 of the Local Plan. For information, the previous reference to para 99 of the NPPF should now read Para 103 following the updated publication in December 2023.

As such, our previous comments remain valid in respect of the loss of the facility for speedway.

Many thanks, Stuart Morgans Principal Planning Manager

The planning authorities must support sustainable development. For this reason, when a proposed development poses a risk of loss of amenity of any type, the application is likely to be rejected.

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8 hours ago, Ghosty said:

The planning authorities must support sustainable development. For this reason, when a proposed development poses a risk of loss of amenity of any type, the application is likely to be rejected.

PCC are unfortunately part of the problem. They are responsible for the mess so I don't have much confidence in them to fight this too hard in the current climate? But they might surprise, who knows?

From the AEPG DAS "The Showground site was offered to Peterborough City Council to allocate for housing and employment uses, to meet the needs of the city as it continues to grow. The Peterborough Local Plan was subsequently adopted by  the Council in July 2019 with an allocation development at the Showground site."

They knew that, if approved, Peterborough Speedway would be lost in that location, hence LP36 and 30. That's where the battle ground is and rejection must come. I suspect it'll be rejected on several other issues as well initially when AEPG play their first 2024 hand!

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On 1/15/2024 at 3:33 PM, NorwichTownFan said:

So DHL looks as if they're already using part of the site for car storage, although the pits area and the safety fence has been removed, its got to be a good thing that the stand is still standing. 

It’s not just DHL there are other companies doing the same work there now Vauxhall, Audi and Tesla in addition to DHL . . . . but don’t tell anybody, they don’t want anyone to know.

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Now that the track lights have been completely removed ,did they end up going to Workington as rumoured or elsewhere or for scrap .

Absolutely depressing to see the showground as it is now from the recent video, 

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