Diamonds85 699 Posted April 12, 2023 I don't like starting a whole new thread just to ask a question, but I'm not sure where else I would ask this. Does the National League use Rolling Averages? How does it work? Is it the same as the other 2 leagues... Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PotteringAround 633 Posted April 12, 2023 No. NDL uses straight averages. A new average takes effect 7 days after completing 4 matches, regardless of whether home or away. (unless your name is Adam Roynon). An unattached rider gets an average after 4 matches regardless of which team you ride for. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonds85 699 Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PotteringAround said: No. NDL uses straight averages. A new average takes effect 7 days after completing 4 matches, regardless of whether home or away. (unless your name is Adam Roynon). An unattached rider gets an average after 4 matches regardless of which team you ride for. Great thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 365 Posted April 12, 2023 41 minutes ago, PotteringAround said: No. NDL uses straight averages. A new average takes effect 7 days after completing 4 matches, regardless of whether home or away. (unless your name is Adam Roynon). An unattached rider gets an average after 4 matches regardless of which team you ride for. Was there an actual reason roynon didn't get a new average? starting this season on a 6 is a joke really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,643 Posted April 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, mc131 said: Was there an actual reason roynon didn't get a new average? starting this season on a 6 is a joke really His fourth match was after the cut-off date so not included. Although there is nothing in the rules to state that ordinary league fixtures post cut-off should be discounted. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamonds85 699 Posted April 14, 2023 Id rather see riders like Adam in the national league rather than being disallowed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper11 134 Posted April 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, Diamonds85 said: Id rather see riders like Adam in the national league rather than being disallowed It’s not about disallowing him it’s about him being given the average he got after riding 4 matches 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,028 Posted April 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Id rather see riders like Adam in the national league rather than being disallowed 6 hours ago, flipper11 said: It’s not about disallowing him it’s about him being given the average he got after riding 4 matches Or using him on double his current Championship average. Not double the Championship average he had when he joined Plymouth last year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
szkocjasid 3,028 Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) On 4/12/2023 at 12:35 PM, PotteringAround said: No. NDL uses straight averages. A new average takes effect 7 days after completing 4 matches, regardless of whether home or away. (unless your name is Adam Roynon). An unattached rider gets an average after 4 matches regardless of which team you ride for. On 4/12/2023 at 1:18 PM, mc131 said: Was there an actual reason roynon didn't get a new average? starting this season on a 6 is a joke really On 4/12/2023 at 1:42 PM, arnieg said: His fourth match was after the cut-off date so not included. Although there is nothing in the rules to state that ordinary league fixtures post cut-off should be discounted. 21 hours ago, Diamonds85 said: Id rather see riders like Adam in the national league rather than being disallowed 20 hours ago, flipper11 said: It’s not about disallowing him it’s about him being given the average he got after riding 4 matches Roynon rode his 4th league match on October 4th, which somehow didn't count as it was after the playoffs cut-off date - which doesn't really make any sense as even if the match was raced before the cut-off neither Armadale or Plymouth could make the top 4 anyway! So it's not as if riders would try & drop their averages because it "didn't matter". However Ashton Boughen rode as a guest a whole month later (Nov 4th) and was given an average, because it was his 4th match! For the record I have no issue with Roynon raving in the NL, just think it should be on the right average. But it appears the BSPL are more interested in making sure a 34 year old with previous Premiership experience, who's being racing since 2007 get all the assistance possible to find a team, with his low average. But Ashton Boughen a 15 year old who has only ridden FOUR matches in his career - let's give him an average to screw with the team who gives him a chance! Roynon also had 5 guest appearances which don't count for averages, but Boughen's guest appearances did! Edited April 15, 2023 by szkocjasid 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,363 Posted April 15, 2023 52 minutes ago, szkocjasid said: Roynon rode his 4th league match on October 4th, which somehow didn't count as it was after the playoffs cut-off date - which doesn't really make any sense as even if the match was raced before the cut-off neither Armadale or Plymouth could make the top 4 anyway! So it's not as if riders would try & drop their averages because it "didn't matter". However Ashton Boughen rode as a guest a whole month later (Nov 4th) and was given an average, because it was his 4th match! For the record I have no issue with Roynon raving in the NL, just think it should be on the right average. But it appears the BSPL are more interested in making sure a 34 year old with previous Premiership experience, who's being racing since 2007 get all the assistance possible to find a team, with his low average. But Ashton Boughen a 15 year old who has only ridden FOUR matches in his career - let's give him an average to screw with the team who gives him a chance! Roynon also had 5 guest appearances which don't count for averages, but Boughen's guest appearances did! That’s speedway though, rules made up to suit as they go along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mc131 365 Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, szkocjasid said: Roynon rode his 4th league match on October 4th, which somehow didn't count as it was after the playoffs cut-off date - which doesn't really make any sense as even if the match was raced before the cut-off neither Armadale or Plymouth could make the top 4 anyway! So it's not as if riders would try & drop their averages because it "didn't matter". However Ashton Boughen rode as a guest a whole month later (Nov 4th) and was given an average, because it was his 4th match! For the record I have no issue with Roynon raving in the NL, just think it should be on the right average. But it appears the BSPL are more interested in making sure a 34 year old with previous Premiership experience, who's being racing since 2007 get all the assistance possible to find a team, with his low average. But Ashton Boughen a 15 year old who has only ridden FOUR matches in his career - let's give him an average to screw with the team who gives him a chance! Roynon also had 5 guest appearances which don't count for averages, but Boughen's guest appearances did! Completely agree no sense to it at all, even if Adam had his correct ave 9+ teams still would of used him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
