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I think people should think twice about looking for someone to blame and remember the support that local businesses have given to the club over the years, and the fact that when we are looking to return in 2020 we will be looking to them again to help get us up and running again. Never bite the hand that feeds you

The problem is that you need to use it or run the risk of losing it - that's the standard line. It is actions like this that drive more fans away from a sport that is "dying on its @rse". So rather than encourage new fans they p!ss off existing fans - not a great business model

Just like the press releases from both Ipswich and Peterborough when he’d taken over both clubs. Think we know the game now. It’s sh!t, but we know the game. Going to be very interesting to see what the crowd levels are at the start, and throughout next season at both clubs Has all the makings of being disastrous this.

Better sorted before you put out a press release with your team for the coming season I think. Cowboy operations and communications will fail irrespective of the timing. We've had plenty of experience of that.

What a mess this is turning out to be. You have the Official Peterborough Speedway website advertising 2019 Season Tickets with it's full team of 7 riders advertised. Anyone buying these can do so by BACS to a Lloyds bank account or by cheque, to a Middlesborough address for the Peterborough Speedway Office, payable to Peterborough Panthers Speedway. You have a newly incorporated company, on the 16th November 2018, called Peterborough Speedway Limited with Keith & Cheryl Chapman as the only Directors, with a Downham Market, Norfolk address. Finally you have a changed team line up from that advertised to tempt you to buy a season ticket. I find that no better than internet scams where the advertised products don't turn into reality. Somewhere along the line someone must be the guilty party in this. So for those wanting to cancel their season ticket for a refund, which company refunds the money? Is it Peterborough Panthers Speedway or Peterborough Speedway Limited? I know that I wouldn't buy a season ticket from most of the promotions that are now running speedway

It no longer feels like "our" club, just "his" , if you are inclined to go along and pay your money to him, he will take it, I love the sport but don't feel at the moment inclined to hand over my hard earnt to Mr Chapman, I will make my mind up over the coming weeks.

What has changed is that Chapman has got his grubby hands on three clubs now in a league of seven, and i want no part of it ...

Ged has sold out and his sidekick Neil has also been silenced otherwise they may have made it known and the supporters have been sold out by this total farce , which I find dishonest and corrupt and I understand how you are feeling as well as most other Panthers fans will also. Promoters all over the country are wondering why supporters are dwindling away, well this is a perfect example why, but they will carry on just the same, expect you to turn up and pay your entrance fee as if nothing is wrong, then when they count the gate receipts, they will be pleading for fans to come and support as they are losing money .Laying everything at the door of the fans and not a thought about previous actions they have made having anything to do with this.

We may never know.. I think Buster thinks he is doing the best to keep the Prem going. He has laid lots of money on the line (no one else would) when speedway in the UK is on it's @rse. He has taken a big risk. Do people really think he has bought Ippo and Boro to make himself thousands when no one else can..?? We don't know anything about the deals in place or budgets etc, so I think people should cut him a bit of slack for now.

That's a matter of opinion ..a lot of people at the time thought it was ..and in time they were shown to be correct

I think you are partly right but many loyal supporters who are not forum members will turn up. Sad that single handedly and in such a short space of time he has managed to be so devisive and brought the sport into such disrepute yet being in charge he really could not give a fig. Lies, misleading stories, no public denials and staff silenced would appear to sum up his style. Sadly he appears to be less than a professional businessman and he lacks man management skills and his public persona does not endear anyone to him or his cause, look back at his interviews on TV. Unfortunately it is his money and he is calling the tune and the only way to get back at people like this is hit them in the pocket. That means boycotting meetings. Who is really going to do that? Supporters have a choice and can make stand but will they do it. Add to the unhealthy situation of one company owning three teams in one league in one part of the country and that is bad news for the future of the sport in this region. Add to this the monopoly known as the BSPA which needs breaking up and/or given a bloody nose says it all about the sad state the sport is in and the dire situation that speedway in East Anglia faces. Fans of all three clubs must be wondering what they have done to deserve the current situation.

Harris said on his Fakebook 'I will not be making any further comments at this time..' This whole saga looks like it's been organised and scripted by one person ...

Erm, let me get this right...you are digging out quotes from 16 years ago to revive a long-gone discussion? I've heard of quiet Sundays, but this is something else!

sad state of affairs sport on its knees is harris that greedy ? why didn"t buster but in when harris signing was made public is lambert on the same money as harris ? is there a set pay rate for peterboro ipswich king"s lynn do other teams pay more ? i hope speedway can turn the corner but this was one big kick in the teeth for the sport can you think man utd have signed messi but a couple of weeks before saying no he costs to much

Nice bonus to have the Bordernapolis included in the season ticket price. Promotion should be congratulated on that. They could easily have taken the "not our fault" attitude to fans losing a couple of fixtures from the ticket.

I'm sure there is medication available for that

Be careful what you wish for! There are thousands of Coventry, Workington, Rye House etc, fans who wish that this rider switching saga was all they had to worry about at this time.

The racing isn’t better, it’s just as good. A good speedway race is a good speedway race irregardless of what year or era it was. Its the million dollar question why stadiums aren’t packed out anymore, and there are probably as many reasons why. Speedway just loss mass appeal and its shot itself in the foot repeatedly for years since trying to find the answers.

That's the way..... We don't know the teams or the facts yet. We might never know all the facts, but surely as a "speedway fan" a King's Lynn one at that, you would be happy if all 3 clubs had good season and attracted enough fans to go again in 2020. As with all the clubs in the UK. " Says something when a Lynn fan would rather see Busters clubs all fail, because you don't like the bloke !! You would rather Ippo and Boro had crap seasons which will result in bad crowds and the clubs in problems ?? As a Lynn and a speedway fan, I would rather both Ippo and the Panthers finish above Lynn if it was a toss up between that and them finishing bottom, with no fans left... and we loose another club. If you hate Buster that much that you want all 3 clubs to fail this season, then I suggest, well I won't, but are you really a speedway fan or just someone who has a problem.

Tungate to Panthers, Harris to Ipswich on Chapman's orders is the rumour that appears to be the loudest.

More likely embargoed from comment I would think

As a witches supporter, I'm still in shock re buster buying the club, and in view the team Peterborough announced it had signed, I felt that our problems signing and announcing our team was because obviously Peterborough's budget was greater than ours. Now though I really feel for you all ( can't believe I'm saying that tbh) having your Hope's dashed after the feel good factor of you "knowing" your team. You have to wonder if our problem's signing and announcing our last 2 riders is similar.

And as the tail-lights of the last vehicle to leave the stadium carpark disappeared into the darkness after the meeting we had the announcement that it wasn't going to be a farewell after all.

And stop all the infighting!

Problem is as you say you heard a rumour.Unfortunately rumours escalate on here 10 fold.Sometimes rumours are best kept a secret until the truth is known.There is always people that like to spread things about even if they know they are untrue.

Signing a rider +6 weeks ago, promoting a ‘marquee signing’, selling season tickets, then release the rider in order to cut costs. That’s a Pi$$ poor business model.

It's o/k having plenty of lead in you're pencil as long as you've got someone to write too , and you can always use the cats arSe if you need to sharpen you're pencil

Ipswich.

Chapman to Rathbone, November 2018: " I'll leave you to get on with signing the team up, just make sure you keep the costs tight. Chapman to Rathbone, January 2019; "JFC, Ged, I told you to keep the costs tight. You're going to have to reduce the wagebill by 20%. If you have to cut a heat leader I can take him to Ippo or Lynn but I won't be paying him the money you've agreed. You can have Tungate but you'll have to pay him a lot less than you've agreed with your other heat leaders.

Lynn and Man U.

Totally agree with you.Daniel doesn't seem much of a speedway fan at present.He seems to stick the knife in towards Buster at every opportunity he gets.Does he know all the truth what is going on,no is the answer.But this won't stop his vendetta against Buster.Buster is no Saint but to blame him at every opportunity is a joke really.If he don't like Buster then so be it,but to hope 3 clubs fail is quite unbelievable.

Change the last word of your last sentence in the post from similar to connected and you have your answer - don’t believe for one minute it’s finance related or Chris Harris is to blame!

Sadly I think both Ipswich and Peterborough fans will be saying the same - it is all about saving the PL and the tv deal with BT - only in speedway could you have one man effectively owning 3 clubs in a 7 team league .

If the bikes were 'standard', maybe the riders could adapt to conditions and, with the price of the gear you'd think there would be numbers, all over the buggers.

It's called the digital age. Most outdoor sports have suffered from the 'sit on your backside' multi billion dollar technology and gaming industry...

Concrete starting grid at Stoke 1953, with Belle Vue, led by Jack Parker, as visitors It looks to be about 4 bikes length, going well beyond the stationery bike position, so that transition isn't abrupt. (Peter craven is 3rd from left, on back row.)

This has brought them out. Lol.

Enjoy the ride under Buster's reign, your love for the club will dwindle under his ownership I have no doubt. Supporters are not in his thoughts as a business, you will just be a mugged off customer.

Perhaps its the bus pass age that needs changing rather than the speedway....

Things are better sorted now than going bust during the season?

Bus loads! We tried to hunt him in May but couldnt find a replacement. Infuriating watching his lack of effort for us then pull off heroics for Poole.

Nicholls over Harris any day of the week.... Nicholls cares about this town and club for Harris it would just be a pay cheque.

Don't believe Robin Brundle ffs!

I have seen or heard nothing to say that it wont so I guess you will be ok.

Peter has been asked in the past and turned them down !

He on the new BBC programme Not bloody wanted down under !!!

Never trust a person who, when posting on a forum uses the third person to do so. Face your anonymity horse bolted many many moons ago.

With all due respect those figures are meaningless without any supplied context. 2018 cost 30k but how much income did you receive, how much was your signing on figure? How much was covered by the mega sponsorship deals you have? 10k has been ploughed into 2019 already on what? and by who? Be very careful how you react to things even if you feel provoked as fans of the sport have long memories and outbursts however cheesed off you are will always bite you back.

Excuse me - it was on the main BSPA website twitter link and still is!! It is therefore very much already in the public domain. I'm not even on twitter so would not even have been aware unless it was on the sports official national website SpeedwayGB Retweeted Josh Macdonald @chunk259 Devastating news about Workington speedway shutting down this year, sadly it’s left me without a spot for 2019, after some thinking and talking to a few close friends, I’ve decided to still fly over and collect my visa and spend some part of the season hoping for a opportunity. Jan 16, 2019