Mark

thank R and R and Pawel

when the team manager selects his riders for 14 and 15 why does he put a name on the board and then cover it with another name.

Correct. Gollob had plenty of chances to win World Titles.

Gollob did far worse than Pedersen and fenced loads of riders. Great rider who people paid to watch in his prime days.

Yes.

Brilliant. Box Office. Unlike Greg who many would not go to watch. I hope they can bury the hatchet and get on with the racing. Pedersen is no angel but nowhere near as bad as some say. Plenty of riders are worse. Hancock would not have got to the top without some fire in his belly. Move on.

Nicvki did kick out at the Torun manager but he had been sworn at. The Torun bloke was in a private area and shouldn't have been there. No excuse for Pederesen but it would not have happened if the Torun manager had kept his own nose out.

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Galeewski was wrong to enter Pedersens pit bay. If he hadn't crossed the yellow line it would not have happened. It wasnt a big incedent. Raised tempers for 10 seconds.

Has this been brought up elsewhere. Hefty ban for the great American for trying to strangle Nicki Pedersen.

agree.

The ref got it right as no one rider was to blame. If the rule was changed to allow all 4 back should there be a crash on any lap then it would solve the problem. If the ref had excluded PK or NP some one would have said he got it wrong. He was in a no win position.

Sudden Sam said - Its just racing and you cant blame him for going for the gap as he was going quicker. If that had been Pedersen ???

Doyle just did a worse move on Elkof than Pedersen's on Sunday... No red card.

Doyle just did a worse move than Pedersen in the Swedish League.. No red card.

So your guessing then. the Torun manager went to Pederens pit bay. He is not allowed to do that so he started the problem not the other way round. The manager deserves a ban as he started the argument. Pedersen did swing his helmet and a foot at the Torun manager but if he was sworn or spat at can you blame him.

The name you use for Pedersen says all we need to know about your bias

This is written by Paul Burbidge who is a Poole fan and will be friends with Holder Ward and Hancock. Wouldn't want him being an impartial judge. Monday 10th August 2015, 12:33 Triple world champion admits he was “shocked and surprised” to get thrown out of Leszno’s Polish Ekstraliga meeting at Torun after his coming together with Jason Doyle. Pedersen powered under the Aussie going into turn three and Doyle crashed hard. The Bulls top gun then straightened up and his speed meant he also collected Pawel Przedpelski. The Dane says he found out he had been red-card before he even reached his pit bay, where he was then involved in an altercation with Torun team manager Jacek Gajewski. Pedersen says the Pole broke the rules by crossing the yellow lines separating rival teams’ pit areas and accused him of being verbally abusive, before the 38-year-old swung his helmet and kicked out at him. "I disagree when the referee excluded me, though, and of course I was even more surprised and shocked he gave me the red card." - Nicki Pedersen Gajewski denies encroaching into the Leszno pit area, but admits he confronted Pedersen for putting his riders at risk. While Pedersen’s reaction to Gajewski would have been enough to prompt a red card, the Dane was baffled that he was thrown out of both race and meeting for the on-track incident and says the Polish authorities should stick to their pledge to clamp down on “acting” in the Ekstraliga. The Odense-born man said: “Doyle tried to make a smart move because I was faster than him. He tried to lean it on me towards the end of the straight. We weren’t even turning at that point. “I don’t have a problem with Doyley at all and Doyley doesn’t have a problem with me. We flew to Sweden together this morning and I went to him after the crash to ask if he was okay when he was still led under the air fence. “I disagree when the referee excluded me, though, and of course I was even more surprised and shocked he gave me the red card. I’m wondering what’s going to happen with red cards for other riders. “If anything, it should have been a red card for acting. They actually had a talk with all the riders the week before in Leszno. The referee took us in and said, ‘if anyone just jumps off the bike on purpose to make out that someone took him off, he’ll get a red card and he’ll be excluded.’ “They’re tired of people coming off the bike for no reason all the time. They want to have racing and close contact, but they don’t want people jumping off the bike for no reason. “I think it was quite cool of the PZM to say that. But obviously this referee messed it up a little bit and got it the wrong way around.” Pedersen insists he straightened up to avoid the impact with Doyle. He said: “I tried to turn to the left, but there was only so far I could go when I was coming in that fast. “I was that close to the white line and my bike straightened up and hit the guy in front. I could hardly turn because the white line was there. I didn’t do anything wrong.” Pedersen is suspended for Leszno’s home clash with Zielona Gora on Friday as a result of the red card. He feels Gajewski should also be punished for his part in the ugly scenes in the pits, accusing the Torun boss of illegally crossing the yellow lines marking the away team's pit area. He said: “Coming towards the pits we have these yellow lines, which I think is a bit stupid, but I respected them. I can see their point now. This trainer from Torun approached me, and it’s not the first time he has done it to me. He has done it two or three times before. “He was standing right in the pit bay, looking very arrogant. He was spitting at me and saying some really bad words – some really awful Polish words and also one in English. “I’d just been told I’d had a red card that I felt was unfair and completely insane. Then he was stood there at my bay and wouldn’t even give me one minute or speak to me later. I pushed him out of my bay because I just wanted to go away and think about what had actually happened. “I shouldn’t have been put in that situation. I was not angry at anybody – not even at Doyley. I was more shocked than anything. I know this kind of thing happens with racing and referees, and sometimes they’re a little quick on the button with who’s going to get excluded. “For the Torun manager to stand there was planned – he was meant to stand there and wind me up. Things like that should not happen and that’s why the lines are there. I’m pretty sure something will happen to him too, otherwise there is no reason for the yellow lines.” Speaking to Sportowefakty.pl, Gajewski denies entering the Leszno pits, but admitted he was far from happy with a move he felt could have ended Doyle or Przedpelski’s season. He said: “I did not walk into Nicki’s zone. He tried to hit me with his helmet, which he dropped. People stood between us. Then Nicki showed very great courage. He kicked me in the right leg. “Certain behaviour off the track with respect to Pedersen is the result of what he does on the track. He has already upset Greg Hancock, who is a very calm man. Everything that happens with Nicki raises strong emotions in people. He causes unnecessary tensions. Fortunately, nothing serious happened to Doyle and Przedpelski because their season could have ended.”

More bias uninformed comment. He was told about the red card before he got to his pit bay. Read his press release.

Total cobblers. He did nothing wrong as it was Doyale's fault. Pedersen is being victimised but other riders are doing worse. Red cards are a good idea as some riders are becoming a bit crazy. AJ was carved up in the GP, has anyone seen him react like that before so it must have been wild ? Kildermand often does crazy moves and got himself on the floor by refusing to shut off when upsides Bomber in the GP. He then put Pedersen through the fence with Zagar.. What about the SWC when the Swede put the Pole in the fence. Doyle has put two riders on the floor in the GP too. Excluded both times.

Some people are bias on incedents just because Pedersen is involved. Other riders do far worse. Michelsen in the GP on AJ last night was dangerous but no one moaned about that. Kildermand has been dirty and Doyle has taken riders off. If Pedersen does a dirty move I will say so but he did nothing wrong this time.

Pedersen under Dowle on back straight and was ahead by three quarters of a bike length. Doyle could have shut off but didn't. Crash. Trouble in pits after that as home mamager tried to be agressive to Pedersen. No he wasn't. Pedersen was in front. Kildermand did worse last night and Doyle has taken riders off in two GPs. As Doyle hit Pdersen it caused Pedersen to go wide which saw him hit the rider in blue.

Doyle has done worse in the GPs

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