Al Stewart

Here are some comments that might be relevant to this discussion. 1. In considering a rider I believe the factors Edinburgh would take into account are: Quality, Cost, Availability. Nationality would not be considered. 2. Danny Phillips and Greg Blair were mentioned as possible alternatives to Dayle Wood. Meaning no disrespect, I would back Dayle to beat either of them currently at Armadale. 3. In my opinion we have not tried hard enough to replace Dayle and we have done him no favours by asking him to step into that role before he is ready. He is a good, entertaining NDL standard rider who has improved over the season. 4. HOWEVER it is not easy to find a really good replacement. We tried right up to the signing cutoff to bring Luke Killeen into our 1-7 but he preferred to remain a guest only. I think he was mistaken and has therefore had fewer bookings than he might have had. 5. Anyone else we might have asked, such as Sam Hagon, Max Perry or Max James, may or may not have wanted the job but possibly might have cost quite a bit, ridden better but not scored much more, and would be very unlikely to become an Edinburgh rider. Geography is always a problem for us.

OK

But he did, according to the updates, and won the heat.

Has anyone quoted this yet: 4.2.4 A chain guard/cover that becomes inoperative or detached during a heat will not be subject to disqualification

But not the Berwick v Armadale from 22/7, does anyone have those?

It's just been correctly pointed out to me that the Ref's downloads on the BSPL site include the NJL results. Full marks to the ref's and the BSPL website.

Does anyone have detailed results for these two fixtures: 13th May Workington v West Lothian 1st July Berwick v West Lothian I'm trying belatedly to compile detailed records for the 2 Edinburgh teams.

The Monarchs Stream was let down by its host platform Vimeo which crashed. They switched to YouTube to get it going again. Obviously the customers suffer and the club will be in touch with those who bought the stream and didn't get what they paid for. It can't be guaranteed that it won't happen again but it is something which should be extremely rare.

I have had a quick look for this with absolutely no joy so far. I found some heats for the SJC 1995 on 8/10/1995 at Shawfield, but programme not filled in.

Glasgow used a guest in the Playoff last year for Marcin Nowak who was getting married, although that was on the day of the meeting. Pretty poor stuff really. I think Poole will win anyway, Leicester were awful over the last 8 heats.

I think it depends who is riding to some extent doesn't it? Is Bickley riding and if not is there a decent guest? Is Luke Harrison riding for Mildenhall? Or maybe even Berwick? Might Ashton Broughen come into it? These are all important factors. Not much info available. PS Just realised it is next week rather than today so the criticism of not much info is misplaced.

Dreadfully written rule. One thing they need to do though before much longer is change the averages of riders who were here years ago and now ride on the continent. For a start anyone in the upper regions of the GPs should be automatically at least 10.

1 61.16 2 61.40 3 60.20 4 60.57 5 59.6 6 60.75 7 61.28 8 61.68 9 61.17 10 60.59 11 60.62 12 60.00 13 60.09 14 60.87 15 60.86 You can always guarantee there will be at least one heat which is a precise number of seconds ie .00 even though it is 99-1 against being that in any heat.

IRR would not be allowed for aggravating an existing injury, thanks to the foolish rules.

So many posts on this thread were based on the absolute certainty that Douglas would ride in Poland, eg ‘Scunthorpe should not get a facility’. Bit of a wasted thread really.

As a wise Edinburgh supporter once said, every injured rider will have a point when he is injured one day and not injured the next. Also the recent ruling not to allow IRR for a pre-existing injury is a definite incentive to delay returning from injury. It's always been the privilege of an injured rider to decide when to return. There's no doubt Ryan Douglas has been injured. I'd be more inclined to ask why a facility is given for the European Pairs, a dud of a competition which other riders could have been selected for.

I have heard from Clean Cut now and it was!

Can anyone tell me if the NDL Pairs was filmed for DVD? I'm trying to contact Clean Cut but haven't heard back from them yet.

Ipswich are not all that great but they have Doyle.

You in turn are forgetting heats 8 and 9. Heat 11, yes also.

I have no doubt of that.

Visiting riders at nos. 1 and 5 tend to score seemingly poorly at Armadale because they meet Masters and Pickering so often. It's different when they are on the Edinburgh side. That maybe suggests that Steve Worrall was the right man but I know that Edinburgh have appreciated Richard Lawson's efforts when he has guested this season. It's going to be a tough match anyway.

I've never been in favour of the two minute clocks, the reason being that I like the ref to be able to give a bit of leeway. I want to see the four riders in the race, and if one of them takes 2 mins 1 sec to get ready then I am not bothered. The 2-minute rule is poorly written, needless to say. I think it should have a full stop in the middle. It also doesn't really spell out exactly what constitutes being 'ready' though you might say that is obvious. I remember at one time the rider only had to be on track heading towards the start. Here's how the rule is worded now: The Referee must indicate the start of a 2 minute allowance by means of a warning horn or bell audible in the pit area together with the flashing amber lights if all of the riders are not in the starting area at the same time this warning shall apply to all riders and can be given only once

The insurmountable problem of trying to split two pairs in a head-to-head heat. All that matters is who comes last, which is why Doyle slowed just as Morris was checking who was behind. Could have been a nasty one. It would have been much better if heat 15 had been the decider with Belle Vue as top point scorers being winners on the night.

BSN Coverage pretty chaotic so far. Bike noise drowning out the commentary and the caption writer must be drunk, he hasn't got anything right yet. They should surely have it sussed by now?