torpointfanatic22

Well it doesn't go into the business or the riders pockets!

Clearly the fan base isn't good enough else he wouldn't be and I quote 'Using money out of his own pocket'!

With no promotion to come in and keep it alive, do you really think they'll axe Bowden? I don't. He'll opt for the N/L and that will keep the BSPA happy. It's the beginning of the end peeps, it's sad but it's true.

Come again Dave? Who've we signed? Oh and just in case it was in doubt about how Bowden treats his 'staff', out going team manager Lee Trigger found out he was being replaced in exactly the same way Gary Spiller did, in the paper! God help anyone who associates themselves with this man!

Bowden's comments in today's local paper, taken from the Devils forum... Bowden is set to stay in control. He says" We did suffer some financial problems last season, but those difficulties have now been resolved". "I will now be looking to have some discussions with the College in the hope of extending my lease to ensure the future of Speedway in Plymouth". Those people who have been critical of me on the various websites must realise that it is a case of Speedway with Mike Bowden or no speedway at all". Mr Bowden has also replaced Trigger as Team Manager, although has not named his replacement. Enough said sadly.

That will have to be a question for Godfrey and the Consortium I guess but would it be worth it if it's only likely to be for one year? I'm going to remain a 'glass half full' on this and hope a breakthrough happens but if he doesn't it'll be one year of NL probably and then no more.

Well with one year to run on the lease, speedway can run in 2013 at the SBA but from what I can gather the Consortium wont buy the club for just a year as it simply wouldn't make business sense if the SBA is to be sold. I guess that means Mr Bowden will remain at the helm and unless the authorities decide to withdraw his licence he will run the club next season if he wants to. Interestingly though I believe the Team Manager has already stated he wont carry on under Mr Bowden unless he is given more freedom and you can bet your bottom dollar no-one will want to ride for him nor will the fans want to support him. Unless another location can be found for the 2014 season and beyond it looks like Plymouth Speedway is likely to close this Winter or next.

Very disappointing indeed

'Keyham' or 'David' is the administrator on the site so he will be the man to contact. We've had a few issues with certain things on the forum over recent weeks but that to my knowledge shouldn't affect your account. :Yells: Daveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! For the record I've had a look as I'm a mod myself and your not showing as banned.

Whilst I don't doubt your post I have a view for optimism myself. Firstly the land is right next to the main line railway, a disused railway, the A38 (dual carriageway into Plymouth) and a pallet yard that seems to go up in smoke a few times a year which does make me think the place is pretty undesirable as a residential area, not impossible though of course. Secondly whilst there has been plenty of talk about a supermarket chain being interested in the land, again I have large doubts about this. The access is poor and you can only access the site off a one way road and in my opinion when you consider parking, the site simply isn't big enough for a major store. Add to that a huge Sainsburys is 100 metres one way and a new Morrisons is opening 200 metres the other way makes me think it would be a poor business decision with all of these factors in mind to build a supermarket. Personally I think the College are simply trying to drive the price up to make as much as possible from the sale but actually the interest isn't that great.

Not sure if it's been noted anywhere but on Twitter today Robert Ksiezak has announced his retirement from the sport. "Would like to thank everyone that has helped me during my years racing in the UK, but the time has come to call it a day. Had a great time!" By all accounts a very nice guy and did OK for us at reserve this year.

Name them? I can only think of Glanz, Reade and I believe Danny Stoneman (although he may well have moved on now) as the only three unless your counting the now retired Mark Simmonds and Seemond Stephens. We have had other riders become assets but the likes of Paul Starke (IOW) have become assets elsewhere now after falling out with your dad. The lease expires in 2014 so your quite right it's two years not one left.

No real surprise if he does end up at Leicester, been a pleasure to see him at the SBA on the few occasions I've managed to get there this year. An absolute genuine racer who you can never take your eyes off whether you love him or hate him. Best of luck to the Fish wherever he ends up!

As far as fisher goes I don't think he was ever likely to return to Plymouth (although I accept if Leicester go el he could double down with us). He has always stated he prefers bigger tracks and therefore I don't see him returning. As for the meeting yesterday well the local rag says there's nothing to see yet so it's more waiting sadly!

I doubt Plymouth will move down. I suspect it will be PL or nothing for us next season.

Decent looking side that and I'm sure would be very tough to beat at Owlerton. Very powerful heat leader trio and a tidy reserve all season after the year the Tigers have had that would be a massive improvement in my opinion. Just one question, no Wells?

Under normal circumstances I and most Plymouth fans would probably agree with what is a well written post, but this situation is anything but normal and had you been through what the fans of the Devils have over the last 6 years you'd probably not have written it in quite the same way.

I'd love to see that stand up in court in a defamation case! 'They keep saying my dads licence has been revoked'. I mean that's obviously libellous and we are all going to be fined. Behave man! Just face facts people don't like your dad and when we here the possibility that he may be out of the sport we are happy. You may not like it but if you think threatening legal action when nobody has actually defamed anyone is going to change matters your wrong. Plus do you actually know how much it costs to bring about a libel case? Thousands and I mean thousands and judging by your dads statements in the press over the past 6 months I doubt he could afford that!

So given that Bowden doesn't own the land, the club has what 2 assets and now there is no promoters licence to be bought from him, what is there to 'sell'? Can the new consortium not just negotiate a new lease and buy a promoters licence directly from the BSPA giving Bowden what he deserves...nothing! On another note Todd Kurtz has posted on Facebook suggesting he has received his pay from Bowden finally, but it wasn't the right amount! (James Holder said similar surprise, surprise)!

It's now been confirmed on the Devils forum, Bowden has indeed lost his licence.

If anyone can shed any light on the actual reason it was kicking off I'd love to hear about it?

I knew there was a catch to your new found niceness towards Plymouth

Brilliant news!

With a bleak outlook for some existing PL clubs like Workington, Glasgow and co, it seems there's some positive news for Plymouth fans today. The local rag is reporting that a consortium has agreed a price to buy Plymouth speedway... http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/Devils-takeover-course-say-consortium/story-16936138-detail/story.html

Unless I'm missing something Nicki Glanz hasn't been banned for 28 days and still named in the Plymouth 1-7 yet refuses to ride due to a pay dispute. IF I'm right and he hasn't been banned you have to ask yourself why not? Maybe the BSPA know something we don't. I'm hearing that had it not been for the Plymouth Team Manager the riders would've walked so firstly a big well done to him and fair play to the riders. I hope the BSPA do the right thing and ban Bowden from promoting and give his PL holding fee out to the riders for all their bounced cheques. Then we'll see who's had the last laugh!