BWitcher

Yes, cut the costs. It's been working brilliantly.

Correct. Not only the pressure, but when you move from No 4 to No 1 you go from Heat 14 to Heat 13... that alone will have a hit on your average.

The same reason as Thorssell. Riding at 1, compared to 4 is anything from 1-2pts difference on an average. Hence, we have both riders on bargain averages for this season.

You are claiming there is no money to be made from the business of racism? Seriously? Now that would be daft.

Nothing daft about it. Racism is a business. When business is becoming slow, new ways are found to ensure it's continued existence. Gullible folks like you are the perfect promotional vehicles and boy has it been successful. The tweet was in very poor taste. Simply state that and pretty much everyone would agree with you. Instead you try and convert it into something else and create a split.

The post wasn't racist. It doesn't matter how you try and twist it. I understand, you are desperate to ensure racism stays alive and indeed increase and wish to promote it at every available opportunity. I'm not, I abhor racism and want to see the back of it. Perhaps, like many, you have a financial investment in ensuring it stays alive.

Obviously not, we now know where the forum owner stands with such posts.

Past experience shows it only makes him worse. He actually thrives on people saying that because instead of directing their ire at him, his victims are the ones blamed... just as he planned. His most recent sick post has been removed I see. We can only hope he is once again on an enforced holiday from the forum.

There is no semantic argument. His tweet was not racist. In very poor taste yes. Racist no. I have not made any defence of the wording used in his tweet. His stance as regards immigration is a different issue.

It wasn't racist. The tweet wasn't a good one and suggesting let them drown was ill thought out at best, basically in poor taste. However, racist it was not. It's this constant playing of the race card that caused Brexit and Trump.. you'd think some folk would learn.

You 'claimed' that, of course there is no evidence that what you say is indeed true. It has already been pointed out that your claim is indeed false as of the 61 people present, you knew who Woffinden was. Equally, it's irrelevant anyway and is just down to the media coverage given. Had the media not given coverage to Lizzy Yarnold nobody would have recognised her either.. (although only one extra person did).

I'd already checked for it myself as I was wondering why it wasn't there! I've seen the articles about those pastimes/activities..

It falls under Bobsleigh. Click on the link.

Thankyou for admitting I was correct all along. You've spent half the thread arguing a point that was never up for discussion or even relevant, i.e. the state of league speedway in the UK... then further wasted it with this nonsense. Good to see you've now come to your senses.

No they are not. https://www.sportengland.org/our-work/national-governing-bodies/sports-that-we-recognise/ Find me wife carrying or whatever the 'cheese' sport you dug up is listed and I'll admit my mistake.

They are not officially recognised sports in the UK.

Easy to vociferously question after the fact and you are being rounded on by the hyenas. Some laughable comments though, including "Golf never gets a look in at the SPOTY" lol.

To be honest my first thoughts were it reminded me very much of the teams Rye House were putting together.. which some ranked highly, but in fact was an aging team on the decline. Of course, that isn't to say they won't all click and have a cracking season. Certainly has strength in depth.

I'm not sure what thread you are reading, but it isn't this one.

Of course a major flaw in your argument is, you knew who Tai Woffinden is. So it's actually one out of 61 in the group you mention.

It doesn't wind me up. I simply find it amusing that people have such a lack of intelligence they can't put forward any form of sensible argument. This latest one of yours is ever more desperate. I'd suggest you quit embarassing yourself now and move on. SPOTY served up what I suggested year after year for decades. The fact you now have to resort to making up 'sports' that don't exist, let alone that we have World Champions in really does show that you have no argument at all. You can try and portray speedway as a sport akin to some of these made up ones you are listing as much as you like, the facts remain, Woffinden is World Champion of a truly international sport, performs in front of 40,000 fans at Cardiff, 50,000 fans in Wroclaw as well as five figure crowds at other GP's across Europe, something which the rest of your minority and made up sports don't.

And again more nonsense quoting the same ridiculous statement. Most sports are irrelevant to the wider world if you aren't a fan including those that you have listed. Just as with Woffinden, any World Champions in those sports deserved a mention. A simple 2 min segment akin to the 'those that passed away' would have sufficed and appeased fans of all of those sports. In its heyday the show did just that, it received far less criticism and sports fans enjoyed learning of our other World Champions. The only blind people who cannot see are those who keep repeating speedway is a minority sport as if it is something we're not aware of.

No nerve touched, you're just embarrassing yourself by talking about the state of the sport.... again. The state of the sport is not what is being discussed. Nobody disputes that the sport at LEAGUE level in the UK is in a poor state. However, that is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand which is recognising British World Champions across all sports. As for your last out of touch statement, you'll find that fans of the sports/competitors you list are also disappointed at the lack of mention of their performers. Total them all up and you have quite a significant % of people. One of the reasons for the declining popularity of the show.

No it doesn't, it's completely irrelevant again, it's simply a representation of which sports get given press attention and which don't. If you were to follow that line of thinking people like Lizzy Yarnold would never get a mention in events such as this. There is also no component in 'personality' of being recognised by the public at large.. you've concocted that from somewhere! Not that the 'personality' part is in any way a 'key' word even when it is applied correctly as their 'personality' has zero influence.. indeed with many sports stars we have little idea of their actual personality. I am assuming that you have made this post as a reason why it is justified not mentioning Woffinden.. yet it actually is the argument why he should be mentioned. Quite simply, British World Champions, in whatever sport it is should be mentioned and given credit for their achievements.

No there isn't, there is zero comparison.