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and that is the current real issue , even NL riders are having to spend £1000s just to get on a level playing field , go back 12 or so years and you average joe with the right tools could make a competitive engine for the premier and even mid elite league but now its spend £1000s with Peter johns or similar or forget it , I had this very discussion last night with a couple of polish riders and they were telling me about kildermand who is a top rider but this year he has struggled to hit form not because he has become a bad rider but because his tuner who he used for a long time isn't one of the tuners who have found the magic touch and he is not the only rider by a long way and right there is the very thing speedway needs to get away from , it shouldnt matter who does the engine , as I said 12 or so years ago it didn't matter but the.current road is a dangerous road for the sport to go down

and how such a simple team building idea works for polish speedway and it's own riders

it was something that a guy from BMW made a few years ago and Tobias kroner rode it in a couple of meetings , the ignition system was way to complicated but the engine itself seemed to go ok and adam said it was quite reliable too

except the price of the tuning and its parts have rocketed in the last 10 years or so and speedway can no longer afford to subsidise it , so something has got to give , any better ideas than cut out the tuners ? Interesting to note too that Adam skornicki rode a German engine in the Olympic at wolves tonight and had a couple of race wins on it , the engine was a few years old too

in theory its a good idea but the reality of it is not , all that will happen is the tuners will have to re tune the engines to suit , different cams, flywheels ,maybe different heads etc just like what happened with the silencer change and the rider ends up paying again and yet again the tuner is the winner , what ever the idea the tuner input has to be reduced to servicing , its not easy because they will always find a little something but a nearly level playing field is better than the lop sided one that currently dictates speedway, if the hard tyre were introduced and for instance all riders had to use the GTR and all the parts were holomagated and no machine work to any part of the engine were allowed so basically the engine had to stay as it came out the factory then the hard tyre would work but with the current free for all on engines and tuning it would just be the tuners who benifit

if you think I'm wrong then you need a speedway history lesson, some of the riders around in the 70s make today's riders look like pussycats ,

I actually think if you balloted all riders about the dirt deflectors , they would vote 90% to scrap them but I would say that as I have an agender 🙄

no he didn't , speedway is a tough game , it used to be worse than it is now but it's no picnic now , if you don't like it don't ride , lindgren was hard but if you want to be the best that's how you have to be, cooks reaction was to a point understandable and it was good to see he was genuinely distraught at the end , it showed it mattered unlike another member of the team who quite clearly couldn't of cared less

he also said he saw it coming 5 seconds before , so why didn't he cut back ? Also watching it back Freddie doesn't go that close to woffinden and even if he did it's the world championship and he is there to win , not make friends or help out a fellow rider which is something woffinden seems to expect , I notice woffy not saying a word to holder when he closes the door to him on the back straight when they met

ok so if this is to be the way forward although jawa could produce something for 1/2 the price then rules need to be put in place so as you can only use holomagated parts (piston rod valves and springs )and no machining of those parts allowed , all porting has to be as standard design , standard flywheels set at a certain weight , choice of 2 cams , basically it has to stay a GTR engine , take out the tuners sourcing their own parts and fitting them , the tuning angle of the sport no matter how fascinating it is to some and I'm one is doing nothing for the sport at all ,the majority of fans don't care , speedway isn't a motorbike sport it's a team sport on bikes

probably because in the GP and in Poland and Sweden fork covers a provided by team or bsi

Sad to hear this , always loved riding there in its NL days , hope someone out there can wave their magic wand over the place

A genuine question here , how come it was £20+ to watch the u21 at kings Lynn but was only £4 to watch the same meeting with the same riders at gdansk ? I know In poland the cost of living is a lot cheaper but the riders and officials are still paid the same and 75% of the crowd in gdansk were brits so basically all that was different was the.venue so my question is why couldn't they charge £4 to get in kings Lynn ?

as sarcastic as this post is it pretty much sums it up but I've been banging my head against a brick wall for so long over this , I posted a easy solution to costs proberly 2 years ago on here but hey ho because of my love of the sport I won't say I told you so when painfully we are forced to change

i think the key words there is "major service" so it has had rings , bearings etc ,it may be a slight step up from GMs reliability but it is not the answer to speedway's ever declining fan base and it's ever deepening money debt and until someone somewhere opens their eyes to where we are heading there is no hope

From the financial point of view of Torun the 4 wild cards should be British

if it wasn't for British fans there wouldn't of been a crowd , not sure why the poles didn't support the event it was only £4 to get in , the racing wasn't great , the track is too square and narrow especially going into the bends and the rider behind has to wait to turn in before making his move , but to be honest I loved being there and Poland is a fabulous country to visit and to see so many brits over there was great

Bit of a balls up with ticket scanners getting in to the stadium not working , a couple of hundred people missed the first couple of races cause of it

Yes we driving over , catching ferry now , staying in kostrzyn and Bydgoszcz , going up gdansk on Sunday coming back Monday , love Torun ,the stadium may not be the biggest but it by far the best stadium by a long way

totally agree , the type of rider that the sport needs

not as hot as her polish counterpart , albeit with a mole

stadium looks empty

I think his team didn't quite live up to his expectations but then again I'm a leszno fan and they didn't live up to buxtons expectations 😳

no we have nothing like that in GB , here we have a team sport with no team identity that is down to the last hardcore supporters 🙁