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Cardiff 2018 21st July
THE DEAN MACHINE replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
Really enjoyed last night, thought the track was best it’s ever been and racing was good, atmosphere was really good, referee was dreadful even inconstant but it did add to the atomosphere, nicki p, lindgren and the ref getting loudly bood, hope Doyle is ok, overall a great night out, restored some passion back in british speedway for me, there were no classic bikes in the fanzone despite it being advertised which was a letdown for me as I have a passion for old bikes as do a lot of fans but on the whole loved it, also went to Somerset Friday and it too was a decent meeting but felt the crowd for the size was a bit flat but I don’t suppose the rain helped -
Cardiff 2018 21st July
THE DEAN MACHINE replied to racers and royals's topic in Speedway Grand Prix and Speedway World Cup
British speedway more than ever needs a british winner tonight -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Ok I will leave you to it, I’m obviously boring you so I won’t bother anymore -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Isn’t this a forum ?we are just amusing ourself why we wait for your grand plan to fix the problems but your making us wait so we will just continue to amuse ourselves but thanks for the input -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
The product is a throttle that halves the turn on the bars, at the moment the throttle turns about 180 degrees this new one turns about 90degrees so basically becoming a on off switch and Greg is a master of throttle control as he was brought up old school -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
not just the lower end,its lost the mid range too, the back wheel is spinning about 1500 revs faster than it was 20 years ago but the bike speed is still pretty much the same, the light flywheels in a short stroke engine just makes it rev, it not all the engine the silencer has reduced the usable power a bit more, the bikes are relatively easy to ride no matter what the size of the track and on a smooth surface they behave but as soon as there is a build up of dirt or a rut they just take off, now imagine the bike takes off and you have to scrub that wheel spin off before you hit the fence , on a track like belle vue you not so much broadsliding as steering a skid, you need the bike to be going forward all the time but on a smaller track you have to turn hard and you scrub a lot of speed off, on really tight tracks your almost going backwards mid turn, so do we really need extra wheelspin to go the same speed?, the product looks the same, many of the people I have spoken too have said we should never have gone from upright to laydown, even hans Nielsen and peter karlsson said it but we did and the first laydowns were great as they had the handling of the laydown chassis and the performance of the upright engines but as short strokes got more popular we are just getting further and further away from a good bike no matter how much they shine -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
as I said spend some time in Poland, they have some real crap tracks that are in fields, did you watch the SEC FROM gustrow at the weekend?, a small track similar size to buxton that has a similar black type shale and was rough, completely the opposite to belle vue but there was some really good racing on it especially in the first half the meeting, the size of the track doesn't matter, all the size does is make the tuner more important -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
think you need to spend a bit more time in Poland mate, they have some amazing tracks and stadiums but they have some real dumps too -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
they are not ,they bikes were the best around 20 years ago , they were the safest and easiest to ride and pretty much the same speed as todays bikes, difference being they didn't have problem getting round any track, but riders follow suit and go with whatever someone else uses, there is a product that has been made but no one is using it yet, if it does I gaurentee some will be killed with it, greg hancock saw it and said he couldn't use it as it doesn't suit how he rides but other lesser riders will see it a progress cause it in theory makes the job a little less work but it also takes away the little throttle control they have now , its a disaster waiting to happen -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
investing in what?,longer vans -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
our product only differs because we have killed the team concept, we don't have a team to support anymore only in name , I used to be a wolves fan, who never missed a match, I have been twice this year because I cant relate to a team who has 5of the 7 riders riding for another team, in Poland your team is your team not someone elses team -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
the bikes are not fit for the purpose the tracks are the same as they have always been and even if you were right 90% of the tracks cant be changed -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
Poland have structure and they gear their leagues to the fan, when you go to polish league speedway you become part of the family of what ever team your at, as I said earlier I have been to some pretty poor polish meetings but the fan experience made it great -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
you keep referring to your restaurant, so how do you attract me to your restaurant as im the type of person who only eats cause I have to, I don't get all that celebrity food bollox and food is just that food so how would you get me into your restaurant because your idea is to show me the food is great, the best but I couldn't care less cause food isn't my thing , but if all my friends were going to your place and it looked fun to do then I would go -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
the team concept works extremely well in Poland for speedway and in pretty much every other team sport in Britain, until that changes I am completely right, the concept works ,it is a team sport -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
I sort of class myself as the old guard but im trying to cut costs for the riders because come next season and they have their pay halved they will be moaning like hell , its not that I don't want them to have it, I couldn't really care less what they spend but being an ex rider I want to help them -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
but this goes back to my old argument that speedway isn't a motorsport, it never has been, it a team sport on motorbikes , that's been its appeal since day one, its not like any other motorsport, ( the twitter poll seems to agree with me )we have never appealed to dirt or road track fans on mass,i always think of my mrs as the typical fan, she has been to speedway all her life yet she couldn't tell you the difference from a jawa to a gm or a weslake to a jap and we own all of the above, to her its a bike and that is typical to the majority of speedway fans including the ones that have left the sport, what she can identify with is the riders and her team. to address the racing you need to address the bikes and you disagreed with that but changing tracks will do nothing there will still be bad meetings even on the best tracks that is the nature of the sport -
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THE DEAN MACHINE replied to PHILIPRISING's topic in Speedway News and Discussions
for the first timer it is all about the experience they feel, a female couldn't give two hoots about a pass in every race and the best meeting of the season, but if she is with mates and they are having a blast and everyone around them is too it will give them a good experience, I hate football with a passion but I got invited to stoke v man utd last season, I found being in the middle of the fans fascinating, I couldn't even tell you the score as I didn't really care much for the match but it was an enjoyable experience soley because of the passion of the fans from both sides, and that's what speedway is about, speedway has lost a couple of major things, the team ethic and the social side, it had both back in the day and both brought the enjoyment to the fan experience,i had friends that used to go to speedway just to pull women as the bar was full of them, the racing is no worse today than it was in the 60s 70s 80s 90s ,it has good days and has bad, good tracks and bad tracks always has always will, the racing can always be better but we need to get the public to attend first ,we need to address cost to the public,we need to make them feel like they are getting a bargain and that its the place to be seen ,then the old saying" put a pile of dog poo in a city street people will walk past it, get 30 people to stand round the same poo and other people will stop to have a look" "a crowd attracts a crowd attracts a crowd and so on " we all want good racing on good tracks but as I said most newcomers especially women don't care for motorcycle racing of any kind as good as it can be but they do care for having a good time with their friends and a crowd going nuts for their team is very infectious